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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947.

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black it's your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you are listening to fate to black with

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jimmy judge on the game changer network

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welcome

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yeah

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bespoke radio

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yeah man

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how you doing how you doing today's

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tuesday august 24 2021 237 days into the

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new year only 138 days left

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we are live from a bunker

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a bunker somewhere in the middle of

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nowhere

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that's right

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but it is beautiful

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it's coming together i would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south

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far and near

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and kg r a the planet

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yeah man what is cracking

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tonight oh man

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tonight

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i gotta say

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i've been doing shows with scott for

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man eight years

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eight years maybe longer

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eight years and

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the best

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the absolute best and

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uh i just respect uh i respect scott i

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respect his research i respect his

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opinions and you know what

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he's a heck of a lot of fun to talk to

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so scott is here tonight so buckle up

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for that

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and uh tomorrow night

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anjali is here

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she is here for the first time and you

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know what we're going to be talking

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about the mojave desert

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and everything else uh that she has been

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out in public is speaking about lately

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so that is going on tomorrow night right

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here and then thursday is another fader

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night with open lines all night long

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all right all right are you ready

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i'm ready scott walter is here tonight

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and uh i want to mention uh to everybody

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coming up next month it's um

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it's right around the corner three weeks

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is the conscious life expo and it is

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at the lax hilton now i've got links in

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the video description box below i've got

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things out in social media i will follow

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that up with some more for everybody to

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go and get your tickets this is a live

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in-person event

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we are doing uh

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uh both at hilton hotels by the way i

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don't know if if hilton is uh as a

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sponsor they should be

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but uh that's uh that's going on at the

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lax hilton

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and this is um a little uh smaller

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life expo of course that goes on each

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year in february but i will be there all

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weekend long hosting i will have our

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fade to black booth there as well

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and uh it's three days also

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uh so that's in person

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if you go to conscious life expo

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all of the speakers the schedule and

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what to do is all right there and i

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believe there's a promo code you can try

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it's jimmy

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it's really that simple all right

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follow me on twitter at j church radio

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now um i brought in a bunch of sound

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deadening material uh into the studio

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and it's just too big of a room it it's

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but i still hear it right and i've just

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i've got so much sound deadening

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material but there's only so many hours

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in the day so we'll we'll see what

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happens uh by the end of the day

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tomorrow but uh things are good things

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are good i'm very very happy uh with

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this new bunker

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and uh what what was i going to say i

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forget i forget it had something to do

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uh but it didn't matter oh by the way

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did you catch me drinking before the

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yeah i got caught

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follow me on twitter at j church radio

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start right there the sandbox is hashtag

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f2b on twitter

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we don't bite and uh

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um i'm let me go over here

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my tweet deck uh right before the show

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i closed it i closed out tweetdeck

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i need my tweet deck

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i need my tweet tech man that

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these are great gifts

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that is awesome okay all right let's uh

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let's move forward here um hashtag f2b

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is the sandbox hello to everybody out

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which camera

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it's it it's weird i got a bunch of new

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cameras and now they don't light up with

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the one that i'm using

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and these are these high

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and you know high falutin

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all right where am i at where am i at

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okay it was announced earlier today

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um very very sad news and i think we all

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um charlie watts the drummer for the

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rolling stones for more than half a

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has died charlie passed away peacefully

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in a hospital earlier uh today

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surrounded by his family

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he was 80 years old and um i'll say this

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uh charlie let me say a couple of cool

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when i was a kid i just want to share

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this with you this thought because i was

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like the rock and roll dude right

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you know uh bill ward of black sabbath

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drummers you know neil per and

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and and charlie of all of the stones but

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distinctive way of playing

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and one of the things that i always

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and i used to you know to kind of tease

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him about it with my friends but he had

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this thing with the hi-hat so he would

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up and then hit the snare

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right this

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thing that he did

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and um very hard to imitate for for

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other drummers but that was his style

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that was his thing

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thing from that

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was insane and it and it gave the stones

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but when you watched him do it it was

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he was making a mistake

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thing right

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to develop your own thing you want to do

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your own thing and

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and and and not be influenced by others

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it was uh a very unique thing that he

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um and and there you go very simple drum

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always through his his career and wow

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wow just just just a sad day 80 years

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old lived the life for sure

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but um and the other comment i want to

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this uh go is i remember

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about seven or eight years ago

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life has changed but when

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back in the day

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and uh and this is leading up to mtv but

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rolling stone and you know these

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magazines and you would go and and you

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would read everything you could

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about your heroes right

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and and it it doesn't matter what the

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band was or who the guitar player was

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who the who the singer was the drummer

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didn't matter you would you would do

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and you had a connection and then mtv

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and it wasn't magazines anymore it was

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it was different

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and we grew closer

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right to that and then live stuff and

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internet things

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and and you know put put the internet to

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our heroes

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from the from the 60s and the 70s and

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you have to remember

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that that was 50 and 60 years ago

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if they were 25

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right that means today they're 75

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they're 80.

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rick springfield just turned 72

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right heartthrob teen idol rick

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springfield

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just turned 72.

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and and what i had said uh so many years

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ago was that i'd

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have all of these personal connections

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and i know that all of us do

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unfortunately

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and it's never been like this in the

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our generation and generations

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we're gonna start losing them and it's

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gonna affect us personally

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i mean eddie van halen that that wrecked

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me david bowie wrecked me prince wrecked

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me right

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and i can go on and on

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you know and and here it is with charlie

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today and i started thinking about this

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wow

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is on my mind you know obviously look

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behind me

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you know i'm a i'm a music guy

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right right okay all right

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moving on i gotta talk about australia

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australia's air force chief says

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planning is underway for a new military

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space command

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that's right all of this amid growing

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global competition for supremacy

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in the skies well above the earth

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raaf air marshal mel hubfield has

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confirmed a truly integrated space

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domain organization is on track to be

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established next year unlike the united

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states

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which is a separate military service

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known as the u.s space force

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australia is likely to opt for a joint

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command staffed by air force

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army

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and navy personnel

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this is the sixth

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country

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to form

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a space command or space force

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all right i announced this yesterday now

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i've got

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nasa astronaut mark vande hayes said

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today

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that he pulled out of a spacewalk that

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was scheduled for today because

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of a pinched nerve in his neck

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nasa canceled today's spacewalk at the

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international space station less than 24

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hours in advance

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citing a minor medical issue

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well

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vanda

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didn't elaborate yesterday but now

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we know

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all right let's get this show cracking

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check this out

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to dave chappelle dave chappelle says

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i'm not buying it man i'm not buying it

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i'm not dave chappelle is not 48 years

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old he's at least my age he'd better be

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all right

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heart oh gee drummer michael derasier

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today

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is 70.

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that's right barracuda when you think of

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the drums with heart you think of

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barracuda first don't you 70 years old

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armored saint frontman john bush today

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is 58. our dead guy's birthday today is

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i need a moment of silence please for

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the one and only

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danny jo brown

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1951-2005

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died at the age of 53.

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danny

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was the lead singer of molly hatchet

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after succeeding founder dave houlbeck

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in 1976 and co-writer of the band's

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biggest hits from the late 70s

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that was danny joe's voice on flirting

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with disaster

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that's right whiskey man and of course

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dreams i'll never see

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and uh

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that was an allman brothers band song

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they played the slower version

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danny joe left molly hatchet in 1980

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because of chronic diabetes and

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pancreatic problems and rejoined the ban

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in 1982 only to leave again in 1995

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after suffering a

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stroke he had serious health issues

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so after that he moved into his mother's

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home in davie florida after becoming ill

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and he uh

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he died there at her home on march 10

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2005

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at the age of 53. on this day in history

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otd

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79 a.d

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after centuries of dormancy

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mount vesuvius erupts in southern italy

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devastating the prosperous roman city of

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pompeii

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killing thousands

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fader fact

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all right

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here you go

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the town

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of hawaii

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why

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arizona was originally known as

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just the letter y

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and due to the y-shaped intersection

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they had in town right with two roads

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it changed its name to why

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due to an arizona state law requiring

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town names to be at least

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three letters long

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and that

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tonight we have very special guest scott

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walter is here

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he is back

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with the stones and you know what now

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this

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can i can i just mention that did you

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guys notice that

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um

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you know so i thought

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you know it's scott walter with the

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stones right okay so i did a little play

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on that uh over the weekend and

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you know scott is back with the stones

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and i capitalized it and you know the

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stones are back on tour and and so i

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wow

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charlie washed eyes today

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so

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yes that's right scott walter is back

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with the stones tomorrow night anjali is

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here for her first major broadcast

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interview that's going down tomorrow

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night so that means

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it's the first time guest on fade to

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black too as well and thursday night is

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another fader night with open lines all

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night long

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all right what's that

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facebook live and youtube only source

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working for j church radio no audio on

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the apps

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and uh oh man

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really

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i'll fix that right now

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yeah sure enough they turned off

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okay well they're working now

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they're working now i i i don't know why

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that software decides to change from

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line to mic

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and uh i can only click save so many

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times okay

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all right uh thank you for that eric uh

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we're back up and running it's uh not

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that big of a deal

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um

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okay now

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today

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50 phone calls

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now before you say wait a minute that's

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impossible no it's not i did it

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uh starting at 8 30 this morning

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and a lot of

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of stuff going on i'm not gonna get into

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the details of it but let me say this

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as uh as i went through the day today

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and

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having these conversations with uh

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various individuals you know and i

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i don't lose my cool i didn't lose my

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cool today i kept everything in check

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but

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um

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through all of this as a matter of fact

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i was supposed to be on with christina

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gomez earlier today i called up

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christina i said christina i'm in the

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middle of this

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this uh this storm right now and uh

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uh i i can't i feel bad about this can't

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be on the show today uh i'll see if i

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can stop by and and so forth so anyway

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um it was it was a day like that and uh

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so anyway

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and i was uh sitting on my back patio

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and uh drinking some coffee and you know

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going through these phone calls i

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started to think to myself

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as i'm listening to some of these

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comments

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why

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that

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the ufo community

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right now appears to be

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fractured

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right

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there's there's this crack

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in it and

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and a couple of sides maybe even three

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and why are we susceptible to it

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it's really really strange and i

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understand that the whole world is

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divided right now i i get that part

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but um

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the ufo community

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right now

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is

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don't need to be

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and so i started to really put my my

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head to this

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and

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a conversation so i want to share this

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with you

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remember a conversation that i had uh

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many years ago eight

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maybe nine

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that is no longer with us

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and

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that the ufo community

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does nothing but

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stab each other in the back

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and that it it's part of it

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and that no matter who

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you're friends with or no matter what

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group you're associated with or

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or what faction no matter where where

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you are in all of this

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there is nothing but

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gnarly fighting going

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on and i said ah man i can i can deal

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with it and

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and

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this person

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said to me

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ignore

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all of it

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and the advice was this and it and today

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here we are in 2021 with everything that

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is going on and this was said to me in

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that

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it doesn't

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it's like come on

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that's it

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and

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that no matter what moving forward no

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00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:33,360
matter what you're going to want to get

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involved you're going to want to jump in

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you're going to want to defend one group

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you're going to want to defend this

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00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:40,000
person you're going to want to do this

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you're going to do that and and no

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matter what

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it doesn't matter

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it just doesn't matter

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and

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now i took that advice

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and as everybody knows that the way that

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00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:59,760
this show has evolved and grown

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the one thing i've always had in the

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00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:02,880
back of my mind

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00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:05,120
no matter who says what to you no matter

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00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:07,440
what you read no matter what's going on

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00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:08,640
out there

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00:27:12,310 --> 00:27:10,000
it just

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00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:12,320
doesn't matter

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00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:14,640
it doesn't

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i'm here to figure things out

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00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:21,120
and the big picture and the answers to

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all of this

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00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:24,640
have absolutely nothing to do with this

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00:27:27,669 --> 00:27:25,919
community in the fighting and the

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00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:27,679
backstabbing and this and that because

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00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:30,559
nobody knows nothing nothing matters

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that's it

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so

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with this

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00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:38,320
golden knowledge inside of my head

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00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:41,039
you know and i've i've i've stated this

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and and

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00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:44,799
expressed this over the years

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but

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00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:48,480
it keeps coming back

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00:27:54,070 --> 00:27:52,880
right we keep going back to we keep

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00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:54,080
fighting

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00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:56,240
and and today

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00:28:01,909 --> 00:27:58,960
i'm going through these fine i'm just

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00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:01,919
listening to this and it's a long

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00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,799
protracted so many moving parts

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00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:06,799
this this thing i don't want to say what

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it's about because

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it doesn't matter

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right

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00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:14,480
and i sat back

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and i thought of this advice that i got

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so many years ago it just doesn't matter

583
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and my attitude

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00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:23,520
on the phone

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00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:25,679
changed

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00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:26,720
and

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00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:28,240
no matter what you're not going to suck

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00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:31,200
me in you're not going to do it whatever

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00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:32,720
man

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00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:34,720
do your thing

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00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:36,720
it doesn't matter to me

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00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:38,960
it just doesn't matter

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00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:39,919
so

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00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:41,760
i'm saying it again

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00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:44,559
to this community

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00:28:52,389 --> 00:28:47,360
the drama the thing

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00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:52,399
uaps ufos abductees contactees tic tacs

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00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:56,000
pilots this that the uaptf

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the this that you guys want to just

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00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:00,240
fight stop

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00:29:06,630 --> 00:29:04,710
e.t

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00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:06,640
showing up here

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00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:09,200
and and speaking to us that

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00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:11,039
that matters

605
00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:13,440
the rest of it anybody starting drama

606
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:15,840
they don't know nothing

607
00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:17,279
nothing

608
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:18,799
those saying

609
00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:20,320
yes

610
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:24,159
positive they know nothing

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00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:25,200
negative

612
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:27,760
middle objective

613
00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:29,600
it doesn't matter

614
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:32,240
nothing matters let's go out let's see

615
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:34,080
some ships in the sky let's have a good

616
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:36,480
time let's try to make contact

617
00:29:39,269 --> 00:29:37,760
let's let's see what happens in the

618
00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:39,279
future let's see what the government

619
00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:41,520
knows oh okay all right

620
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:43,200
that's what matters

621
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:44,480
and that's it

622
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:46,720
nothing else matters

623
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:49,360
nothing matters

624
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:50,559
all right

625
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:53,120
there you go i'm telling you i'm i was

626
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:55,360
at the end of my

627
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:57,440
all day i kept my cool i just kept my

628
00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:58,559
cool

629
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:01,120
and and i'm hearing these perspectives

630
00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:03,919
and and one individual i'm telling you

631
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:07,520
i was like at the edge of just about

632
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:09,840
ready to go you know what dude whatever

633
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:12,480
the answer is no

634
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:13,840
i was right there

635
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:15,840
i just pulled myself back and pulled it

636
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:17,600
pulled it back in

637
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:20,000
it doesn't matter

638
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:25,520
i'm not gonna get sucked in

639
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:28,000
it doesn't matter so that's my advice

640
00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:29,760
and i just wanted to share that with you

641
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:32,000
today and why

642
00:30:35,269 --> 00:30:32,960
why

643
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:35,279
nothing matters there you go you know

644
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:37,600
nothing jon snow

645
00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:39,840
that is awesome i'm going to take my

646
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:42,159
break because when i come back it is

647
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:43,679
scott

648
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:45,200
walter

649
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:49,039
anjali is here

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and thursday night

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is uh

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fader night with open lines oh did you

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00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:56,159
guys see

654
00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:58,640
live on facebook dave scott in his

655
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backyard

656
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chasing a bear

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00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:04,320
somebody somebody tweet dave scott and

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tell him i saw the video

659
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dave scott is out of his mind he's like

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i'm getting ready to do the show but i

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got a bear in the yard

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this is fade to black i'll be right back

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your father's radio show

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on the game changer radio network and

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is jimmy church radio

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[Music]

756
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:17,440
welcome back fade to block i'm your host

757
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:19,200
jimmy cheers tonight scott walter is

758
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:20,640
here

759
00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:24,000
he is back to give us the update on the

760
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:25,599
stones

761
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:28,079
and uh rest in peace charlie watts kind

762
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:30,000
of kind of strange that we call this

763
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:30,880
show

764
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:33,920
scott and the stones and uh the passing

765
00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:34,880
of

766
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,119
charlie watts today feels weird

767
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:39,440
synchronicity

768
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:41,680
we're going to take a deep dive into the

769
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world of 18 disclosure as well all of

770
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:45,920
that tonight with scott he's an author

771
00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:47,760
and host of america on earth has been

772
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:48,800
the president of the american

773
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:51,760
petrographic services since 1990 scott

774
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:53,280
is responsible for the independent

775
00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:56,240
petrographic analysis testing

776
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:58,400
where the kensington runestone was

777
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:00,720
brought for investigation back in 2000

778
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:02,880
he has been the principal petrographer

779
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:04,079
in more than five thousand

780
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:06,000
investigations throughout the us canada

781
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:07,760
and puerto rico

782
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:09,839
including the evaluation of fire damage

783
00:37:14,349 --> 00:37:11,839
concrete at the pentagon following the

784
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:14,359
attacks of september 11

785
00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:16,800
2001. all of his websites are right

786
00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:18,960
there over at jimmychurchradio.com

787
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:20,560
and i would like to welcome back to fade

788
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:22,640
to black the one and only scott walter

789
00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:24,640
scott my man

790
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:30,550
i had to cough

791
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,800
you got so excited it's like oh my god i

792
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:34,400
got a cough

793
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:36,720
scott is back you know um i was talking

794
00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:38,960
about this earlier tonight

795
00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:40,560
um

796
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:43,119
we've been doing shows together now for

797
00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:45,200
eight years

798
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:50,079
it's 2021 man

799
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:51,280
i know

800
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:54,320
what i have to say one thing i first of

801
00:37:58,870 --> 00:37:56,240
all you and i are friends and

802
00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:58,880
we we get along great but it seems to me

803
00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:00,480
that every show we do

804
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:02,000
gets a little bit better than the last

805
00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:03,599
one i mean is it just me or what do you

806
00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:04,880
think no no

807
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:06,720
you're absolutely right about that and

808
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:08,640
you know the re there's a couple of

809
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:11,119
reasons for that one um our

810
00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:14,960
personalities happen to mesh right okay

811
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:18,240
so uh which is rare as you get older uh

812
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:21,839
you know i like less and less people

813
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:22,560
so

814
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:24,000
that's sad but true

815
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,760
right right right so there's that part

816
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:28,079
but the other thing is this um

817
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:31,440
if if we go back uh to the very first

818
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:33,280
show um i'm sure it was about the

819
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:36,400
kensington ruinstone i'm i'm sure uh i

820
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:38,800
can't i can't too long ago but

821
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,000
but anyway so you get the

822
00:38:47,589 --> 00:38:44,400
initial stuff out of the way you get the

823
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:47,599
basic stuff out and and we did that

824
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:49,680
but then the shows after that as our

825
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:51,760
comfort zone um

826
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:54,240
uh gets better between the two of us

827
00:39:00,790 --> 00:38:57,280
that uh there's a level of trust there

828
00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:00,800
um and and we are able to just freely

829
00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:03,839
converse and so the audience

830
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:05,599
where um

831
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:07,920
you can go on any show scott

832
00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:10,000
and you're gonna get the same questions

833
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:12,320
the kensington runestone and let's talk

834
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:15,040
about the hooked axe and then you go

835
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:18,320
into wash rinse repeat you've done it

836
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,240
all before

837
00:39:24,690 --> 00:39:22,400
we don't have to do hooked ex we haven't

838
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:24,700
done the hooked x in six years

839
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:26,240
[Laughter]

840
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:29,440
exactly exactly so but you know

841
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:31,599
jimmy i i don't know if this is cool or

842
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:33,359
not but i'm just going to say that one

843
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:35,040
of the things about you that i really

844
00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:37,760
like is i know you call your your guests

845
00:39:41,109 --> 00:39:39,280
and you know

846
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:41,119
you know prepare for your

847
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:44,320
um for your show and and it seems to me

848
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:46,640
that we've done this so many times you

849
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:48,800
should be able to just call me we have a

850
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:50,880
five minute conversation and off we go

851
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:53,119
but that's not the way it goes you and i

852
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:55,119
start talking about all kinds of stuff

853
00:39:59,510 --> 00:39:56,960
and nobody's listening it's just you and

854
00:40:01,670 --> 00:39:59,520
me right and and that's cool that's

855
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:01,680
really cool and and you know what and

856
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:07,670
and it better not this time either pal

857
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:09,520
yeah i know i know yeah right right

858
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:12,160
right right but and i promise too i

859
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:14,960
promise to yeah i i have uh said to you

860
00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:16,400
so many times scott we got to stop

861
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:17,280
talking

862
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:20,079
we got to save this for the show and you

863
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:21,839
always come back with jimmy i'll

864
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:24,240
remember and you know what scott you've

865
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:30,390
that's a fact next time coach i'm sorry

866
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:33,280
what can i say i mean yeah see do we do

867
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:34,720
what we're not supposed to do and start

868
00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:37,040
taking notes uh during the conversation

869
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:38,720
and that's the exact opposite of what

870
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:41,760
the show and you and i are all about but

871
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:44,400
um it's really funny uh that you and i

872
00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:45,680
are talking about this because the

873
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:47,680
audience never really hears

874
00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:49,920
um this side of things and it's really

875
00:40:54,309 --> 00:40:50,880
true

876
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:54,319
um uh when scott and i talk on the phone

877
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:55,920
it should be just a five minute

878
00:41:01,990 --> 00:40:58,640
conversation and it never is

879
00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:02,000
um it it goes on and goes on because

880
00:41:05,349 --> 00:41:03,920
uh uh

881
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:05,359
what

882
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:06,560
it's it's such an interesting

883
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:08,560
conversation and we're you know we're

884
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:10,160
learning and teaching and talking to

885
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:11,920
each other and the next thing you know

886
00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:13,920
scott how many times have we done it two

887
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:16,240
hours three hours

888
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:19,119
uh you know we did it yesterday yeah

889
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:21,359
you know the other part of this is

890
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:23,520
um like i said you know we both trust

891
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:26,160
each other we do a lot of similar things

892
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:29,359
we've worked in similar industries and

893
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:31,040
you know it's not very often you have

894
00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:32,880
people that you can really confide in

895
00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:35,839
and sometimes let's face it you've had

896
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:37,359
some difficult things that you've been

897
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:39,200
dealing with i've had things i've been

898
00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:40,960
dealing with and i feel perfectly

899
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:43,040
comfortable in saying hey jimmy what do

900
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:44,960
you think about this and it's not just

901
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,880
because we're friends and i trust you

902
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:48,400
but you know what i'm talking about

903
00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:49,839
we'll be talking about something in the

904
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:52,640
industry about television or whatever

905
00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:54,800
and you know there just aren't that many

906
00:41:58,950 --> 00:41:56,800
people that i feel comfortable talking

907
00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:58,960
to and this isn't just a bunch of happy

908
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:01,280
you-know-what this is the truth and and

909
00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:03,119
i really appreciate that i just want to

910
00:42:07,510 --> 00:42:05,520
say man i appreciate your friendship and

911
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:07,520
uh the brotherhood and

912
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:08,880
the trust

913
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:11,839
yeah yeah absolutely absolutely and uh

914
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:14,240
you know another cool thing is uh over

915
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:15,680
the years before

916
00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:17,839
we've got so much to talk about tonight

917
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:19,440
but i can't tell you how many times

918
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:21,920
where um uh i'm speaking to the audience

919
00:42:26,230 --> 00:42:24,800
now where i've called scott and said uh

920
00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:26,240
uh you know watch you on the show this

921
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:28,000
week i want you on the show in two weeks

922
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:29,200
and it's never

923
00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:31,760
scott is just okay what day what time

924
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:35,119
let's do this and it's always been like

925
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:37,599
that and i remember um

926
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:38,880
uh

927
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:41,839
i remember check this out

928
00:42:45,349 --> 00:42:43,599
this is a number of years ago it's

929
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:45,359
probably seven years ago

930
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:48,960
um i had a cancellation on coast

931
00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:51,839
and i was literally this happened and i

932
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:54,880
was i was in like a supermarket

933
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:57,440
and and i had to book a guest for coast

934
00:43:01,349 --> 00:43:00,000
for the next night and i called up scott

935
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,359
i was like

936
00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:03,599
walter he'll never say he'll never turn

937
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:05,599
me down and i call him scott he goes

938
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:06,880
what are you doing i said man i'm in

939
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:08,079
costco

940
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:09,839
you remember this man and i was pushing

941
00:43:14,309 --> 00:43:12,480
his car i said i i need you uh for coast

942
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:14,319
tomorrow night done

943
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:16,319
right just like that you know and and

944
00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:18,640
and that is uh something that i

945
00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:21,119
appreciate so much uh for you

946
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:24,839
uh from you over the years okay now

947
00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:28,960
um now before we get to the stones

948
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:30,560
i saw

949
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:32,720
a post from you and i need you to

950
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:34,480
refresh my memory

951
00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:36,960
uh from earlier this week

952
00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:39,040
um i saw the post i didn't do the deep

953
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:40,720
dive into it

954
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:43,280
uh i was moving into a new home and and

955
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:46,160
i just i i i i didn't have the internet

956
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:49,200
at the time and stuff going on but you

957
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:52,160
posted something about uh

958
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:54,480
the wall in texas

959
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:57,119
and uh what's going on down there

960
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:00,880
oh you mean the the stones down in uh in

961
00:44:06,309 --> 00:44:03,760
texas that have all these carvings on

962
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:06,319
them and we were trying to i went i went

963
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:09,119
down there twice and

964
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:11,280
the reason that i went down there so

965
00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:14,400
quickly and and so many times is the

966
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:17,520
landowner where these stones were found

967
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,560
his father who really is the guy that

968
00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:22,480
started the whole story knew the whole

969
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:26,319
story was was stage four cancer

970
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:29,119
and he wanted to talk to me about the

971
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:31,119
stones and believe me i wanted to talk

972
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:34,000
to him so that was what the urgency was

973
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:36,560
and i went down there and we had

974
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,240
really some great conversations

975
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:40,240
eventually i'm gonna post those

976
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:42,640
conversations and it's a it's a

977
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:44,880
fascinating story but

978
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:48,000
um he owned the property and he had a

979
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:50,880
whole bunch of these stones as well as a

980
00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:53,280
couple of his friends and i was able to

981
00:45:01,750 --> 00:44:56,480
look at over 50 of these inscribed

982
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:01,760
stones that had such a a varied

983
00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:04,079
iconography different languages

984
00:45:08,069 --> 00:45:05,839
different symbols

985
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:08,079
uh beautiful carvings some of them were

986
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:10,480
crude some of them were elaborate and

987
00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:12,720
they were all weathered

988
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:13,680
and

989
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:15,520
you know at this point it's been over a

990
00:45:20,309 --> 00:45:17,200
year i've had a chance to do some

991
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,319
testing i was actually able to acquire a

992
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:22,560
couple of these stones and i think i

993
00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:25,359
understand what the story is

994
00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:27,920
and it's it's one of those

995
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:30,480
it's connected to a story that that that

996
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:32,960
is in general already known

997
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:34,960
that there were have you ever heard of

998
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:37,920
the term crypto jew

999
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:40,800
oh we talked about this uh

1000
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:43,119
well the short answer is yes but but

1001
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:45,119
let's talk about crypto jew

1002
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:47,680
okay well basically these are people

1003
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:50,960
primarily in europe um starting

1004
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:52,960
well this is going back a long time but

1005
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:55,040
basically people that were inwardly

1006
00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:57,760
jewish but outwardly christian right

1007
00:46:02,550 --> 00:46:00,079
because they lived in catholic countries

1008
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:02,560
they worried about inquisitions

1009
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:05,520
and you know not following the faith so

1010
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:08,160
they would outwardly practice uh

1011
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:11,119
catholicism but inwardly they were uh

1012
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:13,280
they were jewish and this was something

1013
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,640
that was passed down through their

1014
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:16,800
families and for generations these

1015
00:46:20,309 --> 00:46:18,480
people would secretly

1016
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:20,319
practice their faith

1017
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:21,440
um

1018
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:23,680
you know in basements in small

1019
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:25,680
gatherings with other people remember

1020
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:27,200
you got to be very careful because it

1021
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:29,680
just takes one person to tip off the

1022
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:31,200
church and they come and knock on your

1023
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:34,319
door and you know you could be you could

1024
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:37,200
be executed so a lot of these people we

1025
00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:39,359
know fled europe

1026
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:41,599
uh starting around

1027
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:44,640
in the 1600s they came to the gulf

1028
00:46:51,190 --> 00:46:48,400
region and settled in small communities

1029
00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:51,200
in mexico and along the coast in

1030
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:54,000
southern texas but there was nothing

1031
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:56,240
known about a community like this that

1032
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:58,240
was up in central texas where these

1033
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:00,960
stones were found but beyond that what's

1034
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:03,599
really fascinating is that some of these

1035
00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:07,280
stones dated back to circa 1500

1036
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:09,200
and this would be a couple hundred years

1037
00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:11,760
older than some of these you know known

1038
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:14,160
communities so it turns out that people

1039
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:16,480
were coming over here to north america

1040
00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:18,400
imagine that i mean i i think we did a

1041
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:20,720
few episodes on we did on european

1042
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:23,520
cultures coming to north america but

1043
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:25,200
this was a culture that came here

1044
00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:27,359
starting around 1500

1045
00:47:32,069 --> 00:47:29,599
and we think

1046
00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:32,079
that some of these people may have been

1047
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:33,920
brought over here by christopher

1048
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:36,480
columbus remember everybody thinks about

1049
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:38,640
columbus he sailed the ocean blue in

1050
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:41,760
1492 but he actually came over four

1051
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:45,520
times and the last time was in 1502 1501

1052
00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:49,359
1502 which corresponds perfectly with

1053
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:51,359
a couple of the stones that have those

1054
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:53,599
same dates on them and some people have

1055
00:47:58,710 --> 00:47:56,720
suggested that columbus himself may have

1056
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:58,720
been a crypto jew

1057
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:00,720
and uh of course you know you think of

1058
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:03,040
spain and catholicism and what was going

1059
00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:05,760
on in the inquisition and and the

1060
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:09,119
brutality that was tied into the church

1061
00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:13,119
and uh crypto jew was uh if you were

1062
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:15,520
jewish that that was the only path i

1063
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:17,920
mean that was that was it yeah

1064
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:20,800
it makes a lot of sense and then

1065
00:48:24,549 --> 00:48:23,200
i've seen some of the stuff inscribed on

1066
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:24,559
the stones

1067
00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:28,319
and it's it's obviously jewish

1068
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:31,040
it's hebrew i mean it's it's it's it's

1069
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:34,000
the hebrew language now um i should say

1070
00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:36,559
it's the hebrew alphabet and after

1071
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:38,480
talking to a few scholars that we sent

1072
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:40,240
some of these stones to

1073
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:42,640
they said yes this is the hebrew

1074
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:44,960
alphabet but the language is actually

1075
00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:48,400
something they called ladino which is a

1076
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:52,800
a mixture of hebrew and portuguese

1077
00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:56,079
so i had never heard of the term ladino

1078
00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:58,960
before but that's what this is and it

1079
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:00,640
actually makes sense

1080
00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:03,599
um but you know the big mystery for me

1081
00:49:07,109 --> 00:49:05,040
was

1082
00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:07,119
okay maybe we figured out who this

1083
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:09,440
community could have been people that

1084
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:11,520
escaped europe they they wanted to get

1085
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,000
away from persecution it was either stay

1086
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:16,640
or die or convert or get the heck out of

1087
00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:18,800
there and and start fresh over here and

1088
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:21,040
take your chances but where did the

1089
00:49:26,549 --> 00:49:23,359
weathering come from on all of these

1090
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:26,559
stones some of it is quite advanced well

1091
00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:28,559
what we think is going on

1092
00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:31,280
is that these stones are actually grave

1093
00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:32,480
markers

1094
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:34,960
they're tombstones if you will that had

1095
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:36,480
been laid out for people in the

1096
00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:40,160
community who had obviously passed

1097
00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:42,960
and like like i said we're talking about

1098
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:45,200
central texas which is not a freestyle

1099
00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:47,599
environment but it has a lot of rain it

1100
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:49,520
has some freezing and there is

1101
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:51,760
weathering on these stones but the big

1102
00:49:55,270 --> 00:49:52,960
question is

1103
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:55,280
that all makes sense but how the heck

1104
00:50:02,230 --> 00:49:58,720
did they get inside of a cave along a

1105
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:02,240
cliff face next to a small river on this

1106
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:04,960
property and sealed up and clearly they

1107
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:07,680
were stacked up they were packed away

1108
00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:10,160
and hidden why did that happen that was

1109
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:12,240
the big mystery and i think we've got

1110
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:13,839
that figured out too

1111
00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:14,640
uh

1112
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:16,400
so what happened

1113
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:18,000
well

1114
00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:19,760
first and foremost we don't know for

1115
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:22,640
sure but my speculation is

1116
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:25,280
these people clearly were hiding out

1117
00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:28,319
they did not want to be

1118
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:30,079
they just didn't want to run into the

1119
00:50:34,390 --> 00:50:31,599
roman catholic church because they

1120
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:34,400
wanted to um you know practice their

1121
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:36,000
faith live in their community do what

1122
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:38,000
they wanted but there were christian

1123
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:41,200
missions that were coming up into texas

1124
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:43,599
apparently and they must have gotten

1125
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:46,480
word either from other people in a

1126
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:48,079
neighboring community maybe the

1127
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:50,400
indigenous people that clearly they

1128
00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:52,160
interacted with because we see

1129
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:55,680
indigenous people represented teepees

1130
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:58,480
and they got word and said oh my god we

1131
00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:00,640
got to get rid of these stones so

1132
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:03,359
imagine this what could have happened is

1133
00:51:07,349 --> 00:51:05,760
these people suddenly were freaking out

1134
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:07,359
they've got word that the church is

1135
00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:10,319
coming if they see hebrew on our stones

1136
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:12,559
and some of the carvings that are

1137
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:14,480
egyptian

1138
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:16,640
that's not going to be tolerated so they

1139
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:19,440
rounded these things up we think and

1140
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:22,640
seal them up into this cave and

1141
00:51:26,549 --> 00:51:24,319
you know we don't know what happened if

1142
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:26,559
it worked if they survived but i think

1143
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:28,640
that's probably the most plausible

1144
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:30,720
explanation what do you think jimmy no

1145
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:33,440
it makes sense and and if you think

1146
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:34,640
about it

1147
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:36,720
uh there's uh you know let's put

1148
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:39,200
everything to the side for a second

1149
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:40,559
back then

1150
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:43,359
you couldn't obviously pick up the phone

1151
00:51:46,549 --> 00:51:45,520
and call 9-1-1 there's problems on my

1152
00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:46,559
property

1153
00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:47,599
right

1154
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:50,400
there is no uh law

1155
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:52,720
there isn't anything there to protect

1156
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:53,839
you

1157
00:52:02,309 --> 00:52:00,000
the moment so just imagine living like

1158
00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:02,319
that right with that kind of pressure so

1159
00:52:07,589 --> 00:52:04,800
what are you gonna do what you know what

1160
00:52:08,470 --> 00:52:07,599
get everything out of the yard right

1161
00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:08,480
let's

1162
00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:13,440
christian crosses

1163
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:15,520
and yeah that's a good point i never

1164
00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:16,720
thought of that that's probably what

1165
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:19,760
they did yeah yeah yeah it makes sense

1166
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:23,440
so um so uh the other part of the update

1167
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:24,240
uh

1168
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,680
television

1169
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:33,359
and you know jimmy i got to be honest

1170
00:52:36,870 --> 00:52:35,200
with you i'm not sure how much i want to

1171
00:52:39,750 --> 00:52:36,880
tell you about this

1172
00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:39,760
are we going to do that again

1173
00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:41,359
are we going to do that right now live

1174
00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:43,119
on the air are we really going to do

1175
00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:46,160
this no no if if i explained it to you

1176
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:48,559
privately you would totally understand

1177
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:50,720
but i the one thing i want to make clear

1178
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:52,240
it's not my show that they're going to

1179
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:54,319
be on it's going to be on somebody

1180
00:52:58,549 --> 00:52:55,599
else's show

1181
00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:58,559
and i was tipped off when another group

1182
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:01,200
was down there filming these stones

1183
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:03,520
and the person that they interacted with

1184
00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:06,079
was not the person that i well i did

1185
00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:08,160
interact with that person as well but it

1186
00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:10,960
wasn't the person that was gravely ill

1187
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:12,720
because there's some complicated

1188
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:14,800
relationships down there as you can

1189
00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:18,240
imagine sure and i do know this much the

1190
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:19,280
um

1191
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:21,280
the people that were down there that uh

1192
00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:23,760
are gonna air this program were not

1193
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:26,720
allowed access to the site where the

1194
00:53:30,870 --> 00:53:28,720
stones were found so

1195
00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:30,880
um i can tell you this i think what's

1196
00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:32,559
probably going to happen

1197
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:34,960
is you're not going to hear the story

1198
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:37,040
that you just heard from me about what

1199
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:38,960
we think these stones are

1200
00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:41,040
you're going to hear something probably

1201
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:44,240
related to a treasure hunt and i'll just

1202
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:49,670
television

1203
00:54:01,990 --> 00:53:59,510
it's not a secret that sometimes both

1204
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:02,000
you and i have been frustrated with some

1205
00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:04,640
of our experiences with television but i

1206
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:06,640
will say this and you understand this

1207
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:09,040
it's a powerful medium and if you have a

1208
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:11,839
message and you want to get it out there

1209
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:13,599
it's a great way to go

1210
00:54:20,069 --> 00:54:16,079
sometimes it comes at a price

1211
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:20,079
sometimes you have to compromise uh

1212
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:22,480
certain things but you know there's

1213
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:25,040
there is a line that i know you and i

1214
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:27,440
will not cross yep and i have never

1215
00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:29,920
crossed that line and i never will

1216
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:31,040
so um

1217
00:54:34,630 --> 00:54:32,800
you know that's the nature of the beast

1218
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:34,640
right yeah and we can leave that right

1219
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:38,720
there but uh i have to ask you this um

1220
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:41,119
america on earth is

1221
00:54:45,430 --> 00:54:43,040
is now a brand

1222
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:45,440
right it's a brand it's

1223
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:46,720
you know well done

1224
00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:50,160
um is is there a future is can you give

1225
00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:52,559
us an update with america on earth is

1226
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:55,119
there something we can talk about

1227
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:57,040
well

1228
00:55:02,150 --> 00:54:59,760
you know what i at this point

1229
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:02,160
well let's let's back up about four

1230
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:04,559
years five years four or five years ago

1231
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:06,559
when america on earth was done right we

1232
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:09,920
did three three seasons 39 episodes

1233
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:13,119
h2 was sold we're riding high number one

1234
00:55:16,789 --> 00:55:15,040
show on the network at the time and i

1235
00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:16,799
remember my agent said

1236
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:19,119
scott i don't know what network doesn't

1237
00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:20,880
renew its number one show you're gonna

1238
00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:23,200
end up on big history so i said okay

1239
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:25,359
great and and uh they said by the way

1240
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:27,200
we'd like you to help us out with

1241
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:30,240
another show that is not getting permits

1242
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:32,880
to dive so they need some content can

1243
00:55:37,349 --> 00:55:35,119
you help us with pirate treasure of the

1244
00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:37,359
knights templar and i said sure

1245
00:55:41,109 --> 00:55:39,200
and then the beautiful thing about that

1246
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:41,119
opportunity and i'm so grateful for it

1247
00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:42,960
and thank you to history channel for

1248
00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:43,920
that

1249
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:44,880
um

1250
00:55:48,390 --> 00:55:46,480
they basically said

1251
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:48,400
we need some content about the templars

1252
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:50,880
can you help us and i said well sure and

1253
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:52,960
they said well what do you want to do

1254
00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:54,640
and i said well the story starts in

1255
00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:57,280
jerusalem let's go there

1256
00:56:01,750 --> 00:55:59,760
and we did and literally jimmy we were

1257
00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:01,760
making it up as we went along it was a

1258
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:04,319
great series i i loved i loved every

1259
00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:06,240
episode it was great

1260
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:08,799
yeah and and i had some ideas of some

1261
00:56:12,549 --> 00:56:10,799
things that i wanted to do that i

1262
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:12,559
thought might connect with the storyline

1263
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:15,040
we were working on and thankfully things

1264
00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:17,920
worked out and eventually we ended up

1265
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:20,400
going to madagascar we went to

1266
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:22,000
goa india

1267
00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:24,640
and we made some discoveries there that

1268
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:26,480
went to portugal

1269
00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:30,559
to portugal yeah to tomar a templar city

1270
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:33,440
my god that was incredible but it was a

1271
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:35,680
great opportunity and i was really happy

1272
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:37,040
that

1273
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:41,680
controversy at the end had nothing to do

1274
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:42,960
with me but

1275
00:56:47,829 --> 00:56:45,280
uh that silver bar that hundred pound

1276
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:47,839
silver bar that was found with the you

1277
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:50,480
know the inscription on it yep yep

1278
00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:54,480
um and and they gave that to the uh

1279
00:56:59,829 --> 00:56:57,440
president of madagascar and as it turns

1280
00:57:02,150 --> 00:56:59,839
out unesco got involved and it was a

1281
00:57:04,309 --> 00:57:02,160
huge mess history channel didn't want

1282
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:04,319
any part of it i can't say that i blame

1283
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:06,880
them and uh you know what scott what

1284
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:08,880
scott is referring to and it was

1285
00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:11,680
actually very cool to watch that was

1286
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:13,599
some pretty good drama there

1287
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:15,280
was a a

1288
00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:17,200
a a pirate cove

1289
00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:19,839
right with with sunken pirate ships in

1290
00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:20,559
it

1291
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:23,280
and which were rumored to be there and

1292
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:25,440
there was a lot of history and

1293
00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:28,000
uh that certainly indicated that this

1294
00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:30,720
was a possibility so that's it let's you

1295
00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:32,559
know let's dive and let's see what we

1296
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:35,200
could find well they ended up finding it

1297
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:37,040
and uh you got to be careful what you

1298
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:38,640
wish for right

1299
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:40,640
yeah yeah well you know what jimmy there

1300
00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:42,480
was no question that there were pirate

1301
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:45,040
ships that were you were free right it

1302
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:47,920
was a well-known hideout for pirates in

1303
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:51,920
the 16 late 1600s 1700s and they would

1304
00:57:56,630 --> 00:57:54,880
get around the southern coast of africa

1305
00:58:00,069 --> 00:57:56,640
and once they got on the east side

1306
00:58:02,230 --> 00:58:00,079
heading to the far east and to india

1307
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:02,240
they knew that they were safe because

1308
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,160
back at that time

1309
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:06,160
the european ships from england and

1310
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:08,480
france and some of the other countries

1311
00:58:14,470 --> 00:58:11,440
would um they would be patrolling the

1312
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:14,480
west side of africa because at that time

1313
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:17,200
they were uh controlling the slave trade

1314
00:58:21,670 --> 00:58:19,680
sure and that's that was the big money

1315
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:21,680
back then so if the pirates got through

1316
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:23,680
there to the other side that's where

1317
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:26,160
they could relax and hang out repair

1318
00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:27,920
their ships or if they were so worm

1319
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:30,160
ridden that they were not salvageable

1320
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:31,280
they just

1321
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:33,280
ditched them there they sunk them and so

1322
00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:36,400
there was a graveyard of ships and um

1323
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:39,040
and as you saw they actually found some

1324
00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:40,559
treasure now i'll tell you a little

1325
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:42,240
secret about something that barry

1326
00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:44,640
clifford who was the co-host of that

1327
00:58:49,430 --> 00:58:47,200
show and a very famous treasure hunter

1328
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:49,440
uh he found the wittish ship off the

1329
00:58:54,789 --> 00:58:52,799
coast of cape cod which is the richest

1330
00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:54,799
treasure ship ever found off the north

1331
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:56,319
american coast

1332
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:58,160
and

1333
00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:00,319
he told me privately

1334
00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:04,240
that that bar that he found

1335
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:06,240
there was more down there

1336
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:08,240
and it's as far as i know it's still

1337
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:10,319
there it's still there because unesco

1338
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:12,960
got involved and said no more diving

1339
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:15,680
that's right show is over

1340
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:18,559
and the show is over and but you know

1341
00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:19,280
the

1342
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:25,200
after that show repeatedly to this day

1343
00:59:30,549 --> 00:59:28,000
people said hey the claim was says that

1344
00:59:31,589 --> 00:59:30,559
wasn't a bar of silver that it was a bar

1345
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:31,599
of lead

1346
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:33,680
and they said what was it scott you're

1347
00:59:37,670 --> 00:59:35,520
the geologist you tell us and i said

1348
00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:37,680
well i would love to tell you but the

1349
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:41,280
truth is i never saw it i never saw it

1350
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:43,440
or had it in my hands but here's the

1351
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:45,520
other side of the coin on that thing to

1352
00:59:49,589 --> 00:59:47,920
me it really doesn't matter because in

1353
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:49,599
the pirate culture

1354
00:59:54,870 --> 00:59:52,720
lead was just as valuable as silver

1355
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:54,880
uh they used it for bullets they used it

1356
01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:58,240
for for weapons um

1357
01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:00,720
and and they used it for ballast just

1358
01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:02,880
like they used silver silver was not

1359
01:00:07,349 --> 01:00:04,880
worth a lot and basically lead and

1360
01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:07,359
silver were about the same value so it

1361
01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:10,640
really didn't matter it was uh it held

1362
01:00:15,349 --> 01:00:12,720
the same value in the pirate culture at

1363
01:00:17,589 --> 01:00:15,359
that time and to this day i still don't

1364
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:17,599
know if it was silver lead so don't ask

1365
01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:18,640
me

1366
01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:20,640
let's take our break right here our

1367
01:00:24,630 --> 01:00:22,240
guest tonight the one and only scout

1368
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:24,640
walter we've got a lot to discuss it's

1369
01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:26,960
been a while since uh scott has been on

1370
01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:30,000
the show it's been about what probably a

1371
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:30,880
year

1372
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:32,480
has it been that long

1373
01:00:36,069 --> 01:00:34,559
i think it's been about nine months yeah

1374
01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:36,079
yeah about nine months all right guys

1375
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:37,680
tonight scott walter i'm euros jimmy

1376
01:00:41,430 --> 01:00:39,520
church this is fade to black stay with

1377
01:00:43,550 --> 01:00:41,440
us we'll be right back after this quick

1378
01:00:53,870 --> 01:00:43,560
break

1379
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:53,880
[Music]

1380
01:01:02,470 --> 01:00:54,610
[Applause]

1381
01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:02,480
[Music]

1382
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:04,720
this is fade to black with jimmy church

1383
01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:07,280
on the game changer radio network and

1384
01:01:15,510 --> 01:01:14,470
this is kgra digital broadcasting

1385
01:01:19,110 --> 01:01:15,520
station

1386
01:01:20,950 --> 01:01:19,120
salt lake city utah van buren arkansas

1387
01:01:22,870 --> 01:01:20,960
[Music]

1388
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:22,880
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1389
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:24,480
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1390
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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight scott walter

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01:06:18,950 --> 01:06:15,359
is here

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01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:18,960
and tonight um i'm gonna guarantee you

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01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:21,599
one thing an open-ended conversation

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01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:22,880
and i'm gonna cut

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01:06:28,789 --> 01:06:25,920
catch uh scott um off guard as often as

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01:06:30,150 --> 01:06:28,799
i can and then inevitably this is what

1489
01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:30,160
will happen though

1490
01:06:35,589 --> 01:06:33,119
scott will try to stump the panel

1491
01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:35,599
he's going to ask me a question

1492
01:06:38,549 --> 01:06:37,680
you know so jimmy uh what do you know

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01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:38,559
about

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01:06:42,950 --> 01:06:40,799
and i'm gonna get angry so that will

1495
01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:42,960
happen a couple of times tonight too and

1496
01:06:50,630 --> 01:06:46,720
uh but but scott um uh i i actually want

1497
01:06:52,710 --> 01:06:50,640
to change gears uh uh uh we're still

1498
01:06:55,670 --> 01:06:52,720
talking about rocks don't worry about

1499
01:06:58,230 --> 01:06:55,680
that we're gonna stay in the geo world

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01:07:01,430 --> 01:06:58,240
but but uh

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01:07:02,870 --> 01:07:01,440
it's it's about ufos too as well in e.t

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01:07:05,510 --> 01:07:02,880
because

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01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:05,520
you have seen and studied and looked at

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01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:07,039
and acquired

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01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:07,920
um

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01:07:13,430 --> 01:07:11,280
uh some stones from mexico

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01:07:15,910 --> 01:07:13,440
and i have uh

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01:07:19,750 --> 01:07:15,920
uh also you and i have talked about this

1509
01:07:22,789 --> 01:07:19,760
a lot but um i have held in my hands and

1510
01:07:23,670 --> 01:07:22,799
and seen things as well

1511
01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:23,680
um

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01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:30,160
where are you

1513
01:07:35,990 --> 01:07:33,280
with uh the provenance

1514
01:07:38,309 --> 01:07:36,000
um the dating the weathering i'm giving

1515
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:38,319
you a bunch of questions right in a row

1516
01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:41,280
you know what's your vibe on what is

1517
01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:44,400
coming out of mexico

1518
01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:45,920
well

1519
01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:48,559
that's a that's a complicated question

1520
01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:51,839
because the truth is i have looked at

1521
01:07:57,109 --> 01:07:53,680
artifacts

1522
01:07:59,430 --> 01:07:57,119
that have alien depictions on them from

1523
01:08:01,510 --> 01:07:59,440
about four or five different

1524
01:08:04,549 --> 01:08:01,520
locations in mexico all the way from

1525
01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:04,559
northern mexico down to southern mexico

1526
01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:06,160
the yucatan

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01:08:11,349 --> 01:08:09,280
and uh and western mexico

1528
01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:11,359
and

1529
01:08:15,829 --> 01:08:13,200
i'll be honest with you one group well

1530
01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:15,839
if you watch the episode that we did

1531
01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:18,480
um a couple years ago we did one on

1532
01:08:22,789 --> 01:08:20,880
these artifacts and the group of

1533
01:08:25,590 --> 01:08:22,799
artifacts that i saw in the yucatan

1534
01:08:28,309 --> 01:08:25,600
region or just north

1535
01:08:31,510 --> 01:08:28,319
they were fake they were clear fakes you

1536
01:08:32,470 --> 01:08:31,520
might recall the one that had ufo on it

1537
01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:32,480
yes

1538
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:34,400
and you know those weren't even really

1539
01:08:41,110 --> 01:08:37,600
very good they were bad

1540
01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:41,120
so so those were not legit

1541
01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:43,679
everything that else that i've seen

1542
01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:47,199
appears to be legit now in the episode

1543
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:49,600
you might recall that we sent off

1544
01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:53,040
uh some adhesive some of the glue

1545
01:08:58,149 --> 01:08:56,000
that was um some of the inserts that

1546
01:09:00,309 --> 01:08:58,159
were placed on these artifacts which are

1547
01:09:03,110 --> 01:09:00,319
absolutely beautiful by the way as far

1548
01:09:04,950 --> 01:09:03,120
as artwork goes it's it's just there's

1549
01:09:07,590 --> 01:09:04,960
just something about it right it's

1550
01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:07,600
beautiful but it's also captivating and

1551
01:09:12,070 --> 01:09:09,279
mysterious and

1552
01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:12,080
i just love them but

1553
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:13,839
you know several of them have this

1554
01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:15,839
adhesive so

1555
01:09:20,149 --> 01:09:18,400
i knew that the rocks could not be dated

1556
01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:20,159
we know the rocks are old the question

1557
01:09:23,669 --> 01:09:22,000
is how old is the artifact well i

1558
01:09:25,430 --> 01:09:23,679
thought maybe the glue would be

1559
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:25,440
something that we could test

1560
01:09:29,189 --> 01:09:26,560
and

1561
01:09:31,749 --> 01:09:29,199
i collected some of that i sent it off

1562
01:09:34,309 --> 01:09:31,759
but actually the first time was not the

1563
01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:34,319
glue it was actually resin inside of a

1564
01:09:39,269 --> 01:09:36,880
pipe i think i told that story yes yes

1565
01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:39,279
and we got this date back

1566
01:09:46,870 --> 01:09:43,359
uh 5400 bp before present and of course

1567
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:46,880
my jaw i hit the floor and i'm like

1568
01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:48,480
what the hell is this

1569
01:09:54,790 --> 01:09:51,359
well that was just the beginning because

1570
01:09:56,550 --> 01:09:54,800
to date i probably tested

1571
01:09:59,510 --> 01:09:56,560
close to a dozen

1572
01:10:04,310 --> 01:09:59,520
and the date ranges i have got

1573
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:04,320
are between about 8 000 bp

1574
01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:05,920
to just over

1575
01:10:14,229 --> 01:10:10,159
19 000 years before present

1576
01:10:15,189 --> 01:10:14,239
that is 17 000 years bc

1577
01:10:17,590 --> 01:10:15,199
and

1578
01:10:18,709 --> 01:10:17,600
you know of course that's head spinning

1579
01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:18,719
numbers

1580
01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:19,920
and

1581
01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:20,960
you know the

1582
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:23,040
well first and foremost are those

1583
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:24,880
numbers legitimate

1584
01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:26,560
um okay

1585
01:10:30,229 --> 01:10:28,320
what does this mean what does it tell us

1586
01:10:32,229 --> 01:10:30,239
right yeah let me let me stop you right

1587
01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:32,239
there

1588
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:36,239
when uh i first was presented uh you

1589
01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:39,760
know probably 50 75 of these artifacts

1590
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:44,880
i was told then um uh by a friend

1591
01:10:48,550 --> 01:10:46,719
he had said that the dating of the

1592
01:10:51,990 --> 01:10:48,560
adhesives

1593
01:10:53,830 --> 01:10:52,000
was 15 000 years old now right then i i

1594
01:10:56,470 --> 01:10:53,840
i was standing there with richard dolan

1595
01:10:59,510 --> 01:10:56,480
and we're we're holding these artifacts

1596
01:11:02,550 --> 01:10:59,520
and now you get hit with 15 000 years

1597
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:02,560
you're immediately at come on right yeah

1598
01:11:09,270 --> 01:11:06,480
okay so this 17 000 year date

1599
01:11:11,830 --> 01:11:09,280
was that for the adhesives

1600
01:11:13,590 --> 01:11:11,840
yes yes it was very interesting that's

1601
01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:13,600
that's a

1602
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:18,000
head around man okay well here's the

1603
01:11:22,390 --> 01:11:20,320
thing let's let's i mean yes it is when

1604
01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:22,400
i first got these dates you know back

1605
01:11:26,229 --> 01:11:24,560
i'm like what the hell

1606
01:11:29,830 --> 01:11:26,239
i mean i didn't even know what to think

1607
01:11:32,070 --> 01:11:29,840
right but i just did uh you know i just

1608
01:11:34,229 --> 01:11:32,080
called a timeout and said okay let's

1609
01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:34,239
think about this right

1610
01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:36,080
what is the uh what are some other

1611
01:11:39,669 --> 01:11:37,679
possibilities that could be going on

1612
01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:39,679
here i mean i want to jump all over this

1613
01:11:43,669 --> 01:11:41,520
and get excited but you got to tap the

1614
01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:43,679
brakes right yeah so

1615
01:11:48,550 --> 01:11:46,560
the first thing that i came up with is

1616
01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:48,560
let's say somebody took

1617
01:11:53,910 --> 01:11:52,320
mammoth bone or a mammoth tusk or a

1618
01:11:56,870 --> 01:11:53,920
mammoth tooth or

1619
01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:56,880
some other plasticine or glacial age

1620
01:12:01,430 --> 01:11:59,360
creature which are actually not that

1621
01:12:04,229 --> 01:12:01,440
rare they're actually quite common if

1622
01:12:06,709 --> 01:12:04,239
you deal in the fossil world grind it up

1623
01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:06,719
mix it with the modern adhesive and use

1624
01:12:10,870 --> 01:12:09,440
that what would you get if you test that

1625
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:10,880
i don't know the answer to that yet

1626
01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:12,880
because i haven't run the test but i'm

1627
01:12:18,470 --> 01:12:15,679
going to and so could that be

1628
01:12:20,070 --> 01:12:18,480
an explanation the answer is maybe the

1629
01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:20,080
other possibility

1630
01:12:25,990 --> 01:12:22,960
is an ancient material it's actually an

1631
01:12:27,910 --> 01:12:26,000
ancient tree sap called kopal

1632
01:12:31,030 --> 01:12:27,920
that uh apparently is found in the

1633
01:12:34,149 --> 01:12:31,040
jungles and it's old tree sap

1634
01:12:37,030 --> 01:12:34,159
that hardened and can be thousands of

1635
01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:37,040
years old again ground up and used as an

1636
01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:39,520
adhesive they can reactivate it they can

1637
01:12:43,669 --> 01:12:41,199
heat it up and now you've got a glue

1638
01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:43,679
there would that give you a c14 date of

1639
01:12:48,550 --> 01:12:46,320
that age maybe again it needs to be

1640
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:48,560
tested but like i said before you get

1641
01:12:52,870 --> 01:12:51,120
all excited about the dates you got to

1642
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:52,880
make sure you got to eliminate other

1643
01:12:57,110 --> 01:12:54,880
possibilities and i know you understand

1644
01:12:59,189 --> 01:12:57,120
that yeah yeah and i really appreciate

1645
01:13:03,030 --> 01:12:59,199
that uh you have to approach this as a

1646
01:13:05,990 --> 01:13:03,040
skeptic you drop 15 17 000 years old

1647
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:06,000
it is a pump to break situation when i

1648
01:13:10,390 --> 01:13:07,679
was i was holding some of these

1649
01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:10,400
artifacts which by the way

1650
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:12,480
are freaking

1651
01:13:17,110 --> 01:13:15,360
beautiful right yes

1652
01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:17,120
and then you know and i'm holding um

1653
01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:19,440
i've got pictures i think i've sent them

1654
01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:20,400
to you but

1655
01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:22,960
i was holding this knife

1656
01:13:27,590 --> 01:13:25,760
the knife is beautiful and and richard

1657
01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:27,600
and i

1658
01:13:32,149 --> 01:13:29,120
immediately

1659
01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:32,159
are you've got to go into skeptic zone i

1660
01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:33,760
didn't want to poo poop because it may

1661
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:35,280
be real right

1662
01:13:40,709 --> 01:13:38,080
but the thing is they are so beautiful

1663
01:13:43,910 --> 01:13:40,719
and then wait a minute here

1664
01:13:47,110 --> 01:13:43,920
15 000 years old because it looks i mean

1665
01:13:48,310 --> 01:13:47,120
it looks old but it doesn't look 15 000

1666
01:13:50,709 --> 01:13:48,320
years old

1667
01:13:52,149 --> 01:13:50,719
and then i remember so i'm looking then

1668
01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:52,159
i thought there's something weird about

1669
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:54,400
this knife and i'm looking at it

1670
01:13:58,390 --> 01:13:56,480
and the butt of the knife right the heat

1671
01:14:00,470 --> 01:13:58,400
whatever you call the

1672
01:14:01,669 --> 01:14:00,480
this part you know the back of the knife

1673
01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:01,679
yeah

1674
01:14:04,149 --> 01:14:03,040
had this most

1675
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:04,159
beautiful

1676
01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:05,760
alien

1677
01:14:13,750 --> 01:14:06,640
face

1678
01:14:15,510 --> 01:14:13,760
right the perfect the iconic it's like

1679
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:15,520
the cover of whitley strieber's

1680
01:14:19,430 --> 01:14:18,320
communion right on on on the heel of

1681
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:19,440
this knife

1682
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:23,280
and it's it's too good to be true

1683
01:14:27,750 --> 01:14:25,600
scott it's it's too good now

1684
01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:27,760
um so there's that part but then you've

1685
01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:30,480
got this 15 000 year old glue there and

1686
01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:32,320
it looks old

1687
01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:34,560
it doesn't look 15 000 years old but

1688
01:14:38,310 --> 01:14:35,679
then

1689
01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:38,320
um you're the guest on the show but and

1690
01:14:43,510 --> 01:14:41,440
i'm i'm telling this story but it is but

1691
01:14:44,950 --> 01:14:43,520
it is for context

1692
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:44,960
so

1693
01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:47,920
um the researcher that presented me all

1694
01:14:54,630 --> 01:14:50,080
of these uh artifacts

1695
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:54,640
then uh sends me uh a video

1696
01:14:59,590 --> 01:14:56,880
of them in the jungle

1697
01:15:01,430 --> 01:14:59,600
uh down in mexico location unknown right

1698
01:15:04,229 --> 01:15:01,440
didn't disclose that to me

1699
01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:04,239
and they hiked for like two days

1700
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:07,600
um into this mountain go into this cave

1701
01:15:11,910 --> 01:15:08,400
and

1702
01:15:12,870 --> 01:15:11,920
bring out of this cave

1703
01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:12,880
uh

1704
01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:14,560
a statue

1705
01:15:18,950 --> 01:15:17,440
of this seated

1706
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:18,960
thing person

1707
01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:20,480
and it is

1708
01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:22,880
scott it's got to weigh a couple of tons

1709
01:15:27,270 --> 01:15:24,719
okay it's probably four or five feet

1710
01:15:29,830 --> 01:15:27,280
tall four or five feet wide

1711
01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:29,840
and it's seated and it's gorgeous

1712
01:15:34,790 --> 01:15:32,320
and it's covered in mud

1713
01:15:37,590 --> 01:15:34,800
and uh they've got it on ropes right and

1714
01:15:39,189 --> 01:15:37,600
there's like 20 dudes pulling this thing

1715
01:15:42,149 --> 01:15:39,199
out of the cave

1716
01:15:44,709 --> 01:15:42,159
and and down they get it they get it out

1717
01:15:46,470 --> 01:15:44,719
of the jungle and onto a truck and they

1718
01:15:47,669 --> 01:15:46,480
bring it back but anyway they start to

1719
01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:47,679
clean it up

1720
01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:49,520
you know water and and stuff they don't

1721
01:15:55,030 --> 01:15:52,080
want to damage it they're being gentle

1722
01:15:58,390 --> 01:15:55,040
but it's starting to reveal itself

1723
01:16:00,470 --> 01:15:58,400
now if somebody is hoaxing

1724
01:16:03,350 --> 01:16:00,480
how do you hoax

1725
01:16:06,390 --> 01:16:03,360
uh you know a one or two ton

1726
01:16:09,430 --> 01:16:06,400
uh chunk of marble you know whatever

1727
01:16:12,470 --> 01:16:09,440
this gorgeous stone is and it was like

1728
01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:12,480
my memory was like maroon and green

1729
01:16:16,149 --> 01:16:14,480
but um and so i'm looking at and they're

1730
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:16,159
doing these close-ups in the high-res

1731
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:18,560
video i'll get to the point you can see

1732
01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:21,040
the cracks in it

1733
01:16:27,750 --> 01:16:24,719
and and and so the carving

1734
01:16:30,870 --> 01:16:27,760
was where the crack where it offset

1735
01:16:32,870 --> 01:16:30,880
right so now the crack is like this

1736
01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:32,880
i'm over here on this camera with you

1737
01:16:39,510 --> 01:16:35,840
the crack is offset but you can see the

1738
01:16:41,910 --> 01:16:39,520
the carving on the top is continuous so

1739
01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:41,920
how do you hoax that

1740
01:16:47,669 --> 01:16:45,199
that that's pretty crazy and this thing

1741
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:47,679
looked authentic so anyway they're doing

1742
01:16:52,709 --> 01:16:50,960
right they're going down and you can see

1743
01:16:56,470 --> 01:16:52,719
alien faces

1744
01:16:59,830 --> 01:16:56,480
in in around the legs and you can see

1745
01:17:02,149 --> 01:16:59,840
this these different et references

1746
01:17:03,669 --> 01:17:02,159
all over this and i'm telling you it was

1747
01:17:07,350 --> 01:17:03,679
bigger than me

1748
01:17:09,350 --> 01:17:07,360
in a chair you know it was all one piece

1749
01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:09,360
and and i'm sitting here thinking to

1750
01:17:14,709 --> 01:17:12,640
myself i thought this was all bs

1751
01:17:16,470 --> 01:17:14,719
this looks real to me

1752
01:17:20,149 --> 01:17:16,480
and i don't know and i've always

1753
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:20,159
pictured a a factory of uh workers right

1754
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:23,120
with dremels creating the right

1755
01:17:28,950 --> 01:17:24,239
in a

1756
01:17:31,669 --> 01:17:28,960
artifacts and then they pull this giant

1757
01:17:34,470 --> 01:17:31,679
sculpture um out of this cave it was

1758
01:17:36,390 --> 01:17:34,480
incredible so i'm i'm at a loss man i

1759
01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:36,400
don't know which way to go with this

1760
01:17:40,709 --> 01:17:38,719
well let's let me tell you about a

1761
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:40,719
couple of things

1762
01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:42,480
there was a group that contacted me

1763
01:17:46,390 --> 01:17:45,040
about a year and a half ago who were

1764
01:17:48,070 --> 01:17:46,400
excavating

1765
01:17:51,189 --> 01:17:48,080
artifacts

1766
01:17:53,430 --> 01:17:51,199
from caves and from under the ground

1767
01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:53,440
some of the things that i saw

1768
01:17:58,070 --> 01:17:54,480
were

1769
01:18:01,669 --> 01:17:58,080
base relief carvings basically a slab of

1770
01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:01,679
rock where they carve 3d images i mean

1771
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:04,480
it's three-dimensional and it's a scene

1772
01:18:09,189 --> 01:18:06,960
and it's spaceships and it's aliens and

1773
01:18:12,070 --> 01:18:09,199
it's females with breasts and one of

1774
01:18:13,990 --> 01:18:12,080
them is giving birth and there's inlays

1775
01:18:15,990 --> 01:18:14,000
all through it it was

1776
01:18:19,510 --> 01:18:16,000
stunning it was

1777
01:18:22,149 --> 01:18:19,520
six feet high by eight feet wide it

1778
01:18:23,590 --> 01:18:22,159
probably weighed like you said uh one or

1779
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:23,600
two tons

1780
01:18:27,430 --> 01:18:25,440
um

1781
01:18:30,630 --> 01:18:27,440
it was just magnificent

1782
01:18:32,470 --> 01:18:30,640
and the guy that i uh i contacted was

1783
01:18:34,630 --> 01:18:32,480
working with these people the problem

1784
01:18:36,790 --> 01:18:34,640
was and i'll just leave it at this the

1785
01:18:38,790 --> 01:18:36,800
reason i didn't jump on a plane to go

1786
01:18:41,350 --> 01:18:38,800
down there immediately is because the

1787
01:18:43,750 --> 01:18:41,360
area is very dangerous and he made that

1788
01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:43,760
quite clear especially being in america

1789
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:44,880
and he said

1790
01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:47,440
i wouldn't recommend you come down here

1791
01:18:52,229 --> 01:18:50,000
but but here's the thing

1792
01:18:53,430 --> 01:18:52,239
what what is the end game if these

1793
01:18:55,750 --> 01:18:53,440
things are

1794
01:18:57,669 --> 01:18:55,760
some type of and i don't even like to

1795
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:57,679
use the word hoax because it's an

1796
01:19:02,870 --> 01:19:00,800
intentionally deceiving somebody these

1797
01:19:06,310 --> 01:19:02,880
things like you said are stunningly

1798
01:19:08,149 --> 01:19:06,320
beautiful and it doesn't matter if they

1799
01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:08,159
were connected to aliens or in ancient

1800
01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:10,000
culture they're gorgeous and they're

1801
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:12,640
valuable they're worth a lot of money so

1802
01:19:16,709 --> 01:19:14,880
from that standpoint are they trying to

1803
01:19:17,830 --> 01:19:16,719
double and triple their money by burying

1804
01:19:21,189 --> 01:19:17,840
them and

1805
01:19:24,229 --> 01:19:21,199
you know it doesn't really make sense so

1806
01:19:26,550 --> 01:19:24,239
i i have to say right now the evidence

1807
01:19:27,990 --> 01:19:26,560
for me is leaning towards

1808
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:28,000
their authentic i'm not a hundred

1809
01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:29,840
percent there yet but i'm pretty good

1810
01:19:32,470 --> 01:19:31,120
now i gotta tell you about something

1811
01:19:34,550 --> 01:19:32,480
else that just happened with some of

1812
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:34,560
these other artifacts jimmy i haven't

1813
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:36,800
said to anybody before

1814
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:39,040
but i spent quite a bit of time here in

1815
01:19:43,350 --> 01:19:41,600
the last three four months with some of

1816
01:19:45,510 --> 01:19:43,360
these artifacts looking at them

1817
01:19:48,229 --> 01:19:45,520
carefully under the microscope

1818
01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:48,239
and when you look at the carvings okay

1819
01:19:52,870 --> 01:19:50,640
the grooves of the carvings when you

1820
01:19:54,390 --> 01:19:52,880
look at a lot of these things

1821
01:19:56,790 --> 01:19:54,400
they're the the

1822
01:19:58,709 --> 01:19:56,800
the images that are carved on the lines

1823
01:20:00,310 --> 01:19:58,719
themselves jump right out at you they're

1824
01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:00,320
beautiful right

1825
01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:03,040
well under the microscope

1826
01:20:06,470 --> 01:20:04,960
i could see

1827
01:20:09,750 --> 01:20:06,480
that

1828
01:20:12,550 --> 01:20:09,760
somehow some way and you aren't going to

1829
01:20:15,189 --> 01:20:12,560
do it with a paintbrush but these dark

1830
01:20:18,310 --> 01:20:15,199
lines at the bottom of these grooves are

1831
01:20:20,470 --> 01:20:18,320
actually painted in there and we're

1832
01:20:22,310 --> 01:20:20,480
talking about something that's

1833
01:20:24,550 --> 01:20:22,320
that's like

1834
01:20:27,910 --> 01:20:24,560
less than a millimeter in width i mean

1835
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:27,920
it's very very small you can't do it by

1836
01:20:31,270 --> 01:20:29,440
hand with the brush

1837
01:20:32,629 --> 01:20:31,280
how the hell did the and they're perfect

1838
01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:32,639
you've seen

1839
01:20:37,189 --> 01:20:35,040
the beautiful artwork on some of these

1840
01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:37,199
the other thing that is very compelling

1841
01:20:39,990 --> 01:20:38,080
to me

1842
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:40,000
extremely compelling

1843
01:20:46,629 --> 01:20:43,199
is that there are depictions of planets

1844
01:20:48,470 --> 01:20:46,639
of uh what looks like sons of exploding

1845
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:48,480
planets of

1846
01:20:54,070 --> 01:20:52,480
all kinds of meteors meteors comets yes

1847
01:20:56,950 --> 01:20:54,080
all this stuff right but here's the

1848
01:20:58,830 --> 01:20:56,960
thing that's fascinating there is a

1849
01:21:01,990 --> 01:20:58,840
there is known

1850
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:02,000
mathematics uh when it comes to the

1851
01:21:06,790 --> 01:21:05,600
distances between the sun the moon and

1852
01:21:08,229 --> 01:21:06,800
the earth

1853
01:21:09,990 --> 01:21:08,239
and i'll give you an example of

1854
01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:10,000
something you may not have ever thought

1855
01:21:16,470 --> 01:21:11,920
about before do you ever notice when

1856
01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:16,480
there is a say a lunar eclipse when the

1857
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:19,760
moon gets between the sun and the earth

1858
01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:22,960
and it creates this diamond halo effect

1859
01:21:27,830 --> 01:21:25,600
when it's perfectly lined up

1860
01:21:28,709 --> 01:21:27,840
think about this for a second how the

1861
01:21:31,030 --> 01:21:28,719
hell

1862
01:21:35,030 --> 01:21:31,040
can it be exactly

1863
01:21:38,550 --> 01:21:35,040
not close but exactly the same size as

1864
01:21:42,790 --> 01:21:38,560
the sun it has to be an exact distance

1865
01:21:45,430 --> 01:21:42,800
for that to be perfect and also when the

1866
01:21:48,229 --> 01:21:45,440
moo or the earth gets between the sun

1867
01:21:52,629 --> 01:21:48,239
and the moon the shadow of the earth is

1868
01:21:53,430 --> 01:21:52,639
exactly the same size as the moon

1869
01:21:56,870 --> 01:21:53,440
so

1870
01:21:59,270 --> 01:21:56,880
mathematical ratios

1871
01:22:00,470 --> 01:21:59,280
on these artifacts some of the artifacts

1872
01:22:03,830 --> 01:22:00,480
that i have

1873
01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:03,840
the same ratios exist including the

1874
01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:05,440
megalithic yard

1875
01:22:08,629 --> 01:22:06,480
so

1876
01:22:10,629 --> 01:22:08,639
wrap your head around that on top of all

1877
01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:10,639
this other stuff we're talking about

1878
01:22:16,550 --> 01:22:13,360
does it prove that they're real

1879
01:22:17,430 --> 01:22:16,560
probably not but um you know what is the

1880
01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:17,440
bar

1881
01:22:21,750 --> 01:22:19,120
when do we say

1882
01:22:23,830 --> 01:22:21,760
you know this is real this is old it's

1883
01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:23,840
authentic and that begs the question who

1884
01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:27,040
made them was it the ets that made them

1885
01:22:31,669 --> 01:22:29,040
was it the indigenous culture that was

1886
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:31,679
revering this somehow acquiring this

1887
01:22:38,070 --> 01:22:35,520
knowledge and jimmy have you ever bought

1888
01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:38,080
or do you have any of the artifacts that

1889
01:22:42,790 --> 01:22:40,400
have these strange symbols on them

1890
01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:42,800
they're almost like geometric patterns

1891
01:22:49,830 --> 01:22:45,840
they look almost like an alphabet but

1892
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:49,840
what i've noticed and i i recorded over

1893
01:22:54,550 --> 01:22:52,960
1 000 of these symbols on multiple

1894
01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:54,560
artifacts

1895
01:22:59,910 --> 01:22:56,639
and not one of them repeats

1896
01:23:01,750 --> 01:22:59,920
not one they're each one is different

1897
01:23:03,189 --> 01:23:01,760
so what are we talking about are we

1898
01:23:04,629 --> 01:23:03,199
talking about a language are we talking

1899
01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:04,639
about an alphabet

1900
01:23:08,709 --> 01:23:07,120
are we talking about possibly symbols

1901
01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:08,719
that represent

1902
01:23:13,910 --> 01:23:11,360
telepathic communication i'm not saying

1903
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:13,920
i know the answer i'm asking you you're

1904
01:23:18,870 --> 01:23:16,560
the host you have the answers tell me

1905
01:23:20,790 --> 01:23:18,880
see i told you he would do this he would

1906
01:23:22,229 --> 01:23:20,800
hit me with a question that i couldn't

1907
01:23:26,310 --> 01:23:22,239
answer that's

1908
01:23:29,990 --> 01:23:26,320
number one tonight the the thing is

1909
01:23:32,470 --> 01:23:30,000
is um uh i have read about noticed and

1910
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:32,480
looked at exactly what you're referring

1911
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:33,360
to

1912
01:23:38,310 --> 01:23:35,040
and i

1913
01:23:44,229 --> 01:23:38,320
i i give the benefit of the doubt here

1914
01:23:46,470 --> 01:23:44,239
where i think that it is uh an alphabet

1915
01:23:49,270 --> 01:23:46,480
but it's organic

1916
01:23:52,950 --> 01:23:49,280
in that um each

1917
01:23:54,870 --> 01:23:52,960
each symbol is created for that moment

1918
01:23:56,390 --> 01:23:54,880
for for whatever it is

1919
01:23:58,470 --> 01:23:56,400
and it could be speech it could be

1920
01:24:00,310 --> 01:23:58,480
thought it could be that it could be but

1921
01:24:03,830 --> 01:24:00,320
um it is

1922
01:24:07,830 --> 01:24:03,840
it is uh it it doesn't repeat

1923
01:24:09,189 --> 01:24:07,840
and if you go back uh to um uh the movie

1924
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:09,199
arrival

1925
01:24:12,310 --> 01:24:10,480
think about this

1926
01:24:15,750 --> 01:24:12,320
in the movie arrival where they were

1927
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:15,760
trying to figure out the writing of the

1928
01:24:19,910 --> 01:24:17,120
aliens

1929
01:24:23,590 --> 01:24:19,920
and then as it turned out it was

1930
01:24:26,709 --> 01:24:23,600
organic thought processes right in real

1931
01:24:28,629 --> 01:24:26,719
time and that's why nothing repeated

1932
01:24:31,430 --> 01:24:28,639
some things repeated right you're having

1933
01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:31,440
the same thought of the word oxygen or

1934
01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:32,560
or whatever

1935
01:24:37,030 --> 01:24:34,960
um but um

1936
01:24:38,950 --> 01:24:37,040
the rest of it was organic

1937
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:38,960
so that's that's what i've always

1938
01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:40,320
thought about that and how wonderful

1939
01:24:46,149 --> 01:24:42,880
that would be if that's what it turns

1940
01:24:49,189 --> 01:24:46,159
out to be um some type of organic

1941
01:24:52,470 --> 01:24:49,199
non-repeating caught in the moment type

1942
01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:52,480
of communication or recording thought so

1943
01:24:56,550 --> 01:24:54,960
that was that was always my way

1944
01:24:58,390 --> 01:24:56,560
that is really

1945
01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:58,400
that's a good explanation i got to give

1946
01:25:03,030 --> 01:25:00,239
you credit for that i didn't really

1947
01:25:05,350 --> 01:25:03,040
think about it beyond just

1948
01:25:07,750 --> 01:25:05,360
you know telepathy that this is a

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01:25:09,669 --> 01:25:07,760
message that we're having a conversation

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01:25:12,310 --> 01:25:09,679
and what's interesting on a lot of the

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01:25:15,030 --> 01:25:12,320
artifacts that i have is the collective

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of symbols the the the biggest group of

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them

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01:25:20,790 --> 01:25:18,400
often times are in the head in the in

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the upper head you know where the brain

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is and but i did i never thought about

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01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:25,360
the fact that it could be a combination

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01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:28,080
of things uh the collective as you said

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01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:30,880
maybe maybe some of it is speech some of

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01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:32,960
it's telepathy maybe it's a combination

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i never thought about that before good

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answer uh you came through in the clutch

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01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:38,560
well

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because they don't repeat and it's

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01:25:45,030 --> 01:25:42,800
impossible not to repeat anything i

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01:25:47,189 --> 01:25:45,040
don't care how creative you are

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01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:47,199
you're going to stumble right if you're

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01:25:50,550 --> 01:25:49,679
hoaxing right right right if you're

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01:25:52,470 --> 01:25:50,560
hungry

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01:25:54,149 --> 01:25:52,480
you're going to make a mistake and uh

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01:25:56,070 --> 01:25:54,159
there's another part to this before we

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01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:56,080
get to the break

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01:26:03,270 --> 01:25:58,800
if they are being

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01:26:05,590 --> 01:26:03,280
created in a uh e.t stone factory

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01:26:07,910 --> 01:26:05,600
somewhere multiple locations in mexico

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01:26:09,830 --> 01:26:07,920
how come somebody hasn't gotten caught

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01:26:12,070 --> 01:26:09,840
you know we we

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01:26:13,910 --> 01:26:12,080
everybody makes mistakes you know

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01:26:16,310 --> 01:26:13,920
there's something happen somebody's owed

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01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:16,320
money jealous girlfriend whatever

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01:26:20,070 --> 01:26:18,400
somebody gets called out and the next

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01:26:21,430 --> 01:26:20,080
thing you know everything is exposed no

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01:26:23,830 --> 01:26:21,440
matter what it is could be a bank

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01:26:24,950 --> 01:26:23,840
robbery right it doesn't matter

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01:26:27,110 --> 01:26:24,960
um

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01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:27,120
why is it that they've been able to get

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01:26:32,629 --> 01:26:29,840
away for uh with it for

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01:26:34,950 --> 01:26:32,639
such a long time because

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01:26:38,709 --> 01:26:34,960
we're not talking about two stones

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01:26:42,149 --> 01:26:38,719
we're talking about tens of thousands

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01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:42,159
that have surfaced um and non-repetitive

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01:26:48,470 --> 01:26:43,040
some

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01:26:50,550 --> 01:26:48,480
but the the the

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01:26:53,590 --> 01:26:50,560
the artifacts themselves

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01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:53,600
are all each one is fundamentally

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01:26:58,709 --> 01:26:56,560
different from everything else it's very

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01:26:59,830 --> 01:26:58,719
it's i don't know how you

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01:27:03,189 --> 01:26:59,840
uh

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01:27:05,189 --> 01:27:03,199
creatively hoax for so long without

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01:27:06,790 --> 01:27:05,199
getting caught it's it's it's it's

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01:27:08,310 --> 01:27:06,800
pretty impressive i'm not saying i'm

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01:27:09,110 --> 01:27:08,320
backing it up

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01:27:11,189 --> 01:27:09,120
but

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01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:11,199
nobody's been caught and and nothing has

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01:27:15,830 --> 01:27:13,440
been revealed there's a lot of pictures

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01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:15,840
in twitter right now of these stones by

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01:27:19,189 --> 01:27:16,960
the way

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01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:19,199
i will say this jimmy the preponderance

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01:27:23,590 --> 01:27:21,600
of evidence if you ask me right now now

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01:27:26,550 --> 01:27:23,600
i'm going to be you asking me the tough

2011
01:27:28,149 --> 01:27:26,560
question scott if you had to say

2012
01:27:31,510 --> 01:27:28,159
are these real

2013
01:27:35,110 --> 01:27:31,520
or are they fake i gotta say right now

2014
01:27:38,870 --> 01:27:36,870
with the caveat that we still have some

2015
01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:38,880
questions we need to try to answer but

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01:27:42,790 --> 01:27:41,440
right now if i had to put the money on

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01:27:44,950 --> 01:27:42,800
the table

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01:27:47,990 --> 01:27:44,960
i'd say that the vast majority that i've

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01:27:50,470 --> 01:27:48,000
looked at are probably legit wow that's

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01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:50,480
crazy isn't it and is um

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01:27:55,669 --> 01:27:53,760
um now you know how it is uh you know

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01:27:57,430 --> 01:27:55,679
growing up where

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01:28:00,149 --> 01:27:57,440
your elders

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01:28:02,310 --> 01:28:00,159
constantly told you scott if it's too

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01:28:04,870 --> 01:28:02,320
good to be true

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01:28:06,229 --> 01:28:04,880
come on use your head now

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01:28:08,070 --> 01:28:06,239
okay

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01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:08,080
um

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01:28:13,110 --> 01:28:09,840
you're not gonna get a spider monkey for

2030
01:28:14,550 --> 01:28:13,120
a dollar in the mail scott right yeah

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01:28:15,430 --> 01:28:14,560
so

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01:28:18,149 --> 01:28:15,440
yeah

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01:28:19,030 --> 01:28:18,159
right but jimmy jimmy i i'm not this

2034
01:28:22,070 --> 01:28:19,040
isn't

2035
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:22,080
my gut you know well i take that back

2036
01:28:26,550 --> 01:28:24,880
it isn't just my gut i have done a lot

2037
01:28:29,510 --> 01:28:26,560
of testing i've done a lot of

2038
01:28:31,830 --> 01:28:29,520
observations i've i've you know written

2039
01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:31,840
down over a thousand characters to find

2040
01:28:35,990 --> 01:28:34,159
one that repeated now there were some

2041
01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:36,000
that had sort of the same

2042
01:28:41,350 --> 01:28:39,040
base you know foundation but it had

2043
01:28:42,790 --> 01:28:41,360
different offshoots on it so if it is

2044
01:28:45,110 --> 01:28:42,800
this thought thing you're talking about

2045
01:28:47,189 --> 01:28:45,120
maybe we're talking about oxygen but in

2046
01:28:49,030 --> 01:28:47,199
a different context right yes yes yes

2047
01:28:52,709 --> 01:28:49,040
yes yes yes you know i'm gonna agree

2048
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:52,719
look i i i want all of uh not all i want

2049
01:28:57,189 --> 01:28:56,000
i want uh this discovery to be authentic

2050
01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:57,199
and real

2051
01:29:03,030 --> 01:29:01,040
um there's another uh for me a very uh

2052
01:29:06,550 --> 01:29:03,040
positive part of this we're talking

2053
01:29:10,390 --> 01:29:06,560
about cultures in in mexico and central

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01:29:12,870 --> 01:29:10,400
america that have um obviously

2055
01:29:15,189 --> 01:29:12,880
um high knowledge of astronomy of

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01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:15,199
mathematics of calendars

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01:29:19,910 --> 01:29:17,679
of angles of geometry

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01:29:22,470 --> 01:29:19,920
um uh that

2059
01:29:24,550 --> 01:29:22,480
always always to me tied to something

2060
01:29:27,510 --> 01:29:24,560
else and i can mention the minds and the

2061
01:29:30,709 --> 01:29:27,520
aztecs and and and so forth but but i

2062
01:29:31,750 --> 01:29:30,719
think it's an obvious thing uh um uh

2063
01:29:33,669 --> 01:29:31,760
uh

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01:29:34,470 --> 01:29:33,679
i was gonna go with some other cultures

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01:29:35,510 --> 01:29:34,480
but

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01:29:36,310 --> 01:29:35,520
um

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01:29:38,390 --> 01:29:36,320
that

2068
01:29:40,070 --> 01:29:38,400
this tie-in makes

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01:29:42,550 --> 01:29:40,080
way too much sense

2070
01:29:45,030 --> 01:29:42,560
and the look of these artifacts and you

2071
01:29:46,790 --> 01:29:45,040
combine it into the cultures of central

2072
01:29:47,590 --> 01:29:46,800
and south america

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01:29:56,229 --> 01:29:47,600
they

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01:29:59,270 --> 01:29:56,239
so yeah yeah it would be wonderful if uh

2075
01:30:01,030 --> 01:29:59,280
something uh breaks out here and proves

2076
01:30:03,110 --> 01:30:01,040
these to be authentic especially with

2077
01:30:05,350 --> 01:30:03,120
everything else that's going on uh you

2078
01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:05,360
know oh yeah with et right now

2079
01:30:08,629 --> 01:30:07,120
uh where are we at oh i gotta take a

2080
01:30:10,310 --> 01:30:08,639
break man we almost blew through a

2081
01:30:12,629 --> 01:30:10,320
commercial break let me get straight to

2082
01:30:15,669 --> 01:30:12,639
it our guest tonight scott walter we've

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01:30:18,229 --> 01:30:15,679
got a lot more to discuss

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it's scott and the stones i'm your host

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jimmy church i'll be right back more

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01:30:25,780 --> 01:30:21,920
with scott after this short break stay

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[Music]

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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every insurance company in the country

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01:37:16,149 --> 01:37:13,600
everybody knows about

2223
01:37:19,430 --> 01:37:16,159
your little private itch

2224
01:37:21,350 --> 01:37:19,440
get virtual shield vpn today

2225
01:37:25,350 --> 01:37:21,360
our guest tonight is scott walter and

2226
01:37:30,070 --> 01:37:27,109
i'm not scratching what he's talking

2227
01:37:33,189 --> 01:37:30,080
about scott is scratching so um scott is

2228
01:37:36,629 --> 01:37:33,199
uh uh holding up to the camera uh a

2229
01:37:37,750 --> 01:37:36,639
knife a a ceremonial knife

2230
01:37:40,950 --> 01:37:37,760
and uh

2231
01:37:42,470 --> 01:37:40,960
um which uh which oddly enough and i'm

2232
01:37:43,430 --> 01:37:42,480
gonna tell you about my knife in a

2233
01:37:47,189 --> 01:37:43,440
second

2234
01:37:49,669 --> 01:37:47,199
the symbols yes yes yes yes and and that

2235
01:37:51,590 --> 01:37:49,679
is so intriguing to me because it is

2236
01:37:55,030 --> 01:37:51,600
saying something

2237
01:37:56,790 --> 01:37:55,040
and it's uh astrological it's it's

2238
01:37:58,709 --> 01:37:56,800
there's there's something going on but

2239
01:38:01,990 --> 01:37:58,719
what i wanted to mention was the

2240
01:38:04,149 --> 01:38:02,000
serrated edge that is there there's this

2241
01:38:06,629 --> 01:38:04,159
um it is uh

2242
01:38:10,709 --> 01:38:06,639
um what how do i want to say this it's

2243
01:38:12,870 --> 01:38:10,719
an artistic serration right yeah yes but

2244
01:38:15,350 --> 01:38:12,880
i suppose if you hacked at somebody's

2245
01:38:17,430 --> 01:38:15,360
neck for a while you would you would do

2246
01:38:19,189 --> 01:38:17,440
some damage yeah but yeah that would

2247
01:38:22,470 --> 01:38:19,199
that would sting like the dick that

2248
01:38:23,430 --> 01:38:22,480
would that would and so the knife that i

2249
01:38:25,350 --> 01:38:23,440
saw

2250
01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:25,360
it's a ceremonial

2251
01:38:32,310 --> 01:38:28,480
it's an aesthetic it's an artistic knife

2252
01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:32,320
um but the serrated edges that i saw

2253
01:38:38,470 --> 01:38:36,880
scott were like glued in teeth

2254
01:38:40,709 --> 01:38:38,480
that's what they look like but that's

2255
01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:40,719
not what they are no no not yours the

2256
01:38:46,229 --> 01:38:42,239
one that i saw

2257
01:38:49,270 --> 01:38:46,239
all right it had these square

2258
01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:49,280
uh teeth along the edge you're you're

2259
01:38:54,229 --> 01:38:51,520
the surrey serration

2260
01:38:58,229 --> 01:38:54,239
serration serrated edge yeah that edge

2261
01:39:00,950 --> 01:38:58,239
is carved in these were glued in really

2262
01:39:03,350 --> 01:39:00,960
yeah and it was really cool looking and

2263
01:39:07,669 --> 01:39:03,360
the one that i saw was uh

2264
01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:07,679
uh like a purple marble um it was it was

2265
01:39:13,430 --> 01:39:10,800
truly incredible and yeah but uh so

2266
01:39:14,950 --> 01:39:13,440
anyway what i wanted to say was uh scott

2267
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:14,960
you showed me

2268
01:39:18,790 --> 01:39:17,520
the butt and of the knife what is there

2269
01:39:21,030 --> 01:39:18,800
i want you to do

2270
01:39:22,870 --> 01:39:21,040
to describe to everybody what what's

2271
01:39:25,270 --> 01:39:22,880
what's on the end of that knife

2272
01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:25,280
well actually what it is is it's a

2273
01:39:29,270 --> 01:39:27,520
little sitting dude right with the

2274
01:39:32,629 --> 01:39:29,280
almond-shaped eyes

2275
01:39:34,709 --> 01:39:32,639
and there is an interesting

2276
01:39:35,750 --> 01:39:34,719
symbol that has

2277
01:39:37,189 --> 01:39:35,760
more

2278
01:39:39,590 --> 01:39:37,199
um

2279
01:39:41,750 --> 01:39:39,600
aliens right here if you look closely

2280
01:39:43,430 --> 01:39:41,760
you see that right yep yep yep and then

2281
01:39:45,830 --> 01:39:43,440
on the back we have a bunch of the

2282
01:39:47,669 --> 01:39:45,840
symbols that we were talking about

2283
01:39:49,910 --> 01:39:47,679
and this guy's sitting in an you know

2284
01:39:52,709 --> 01:39:49,920
he's in a sitting position

2285
01:39:55,270 --> 01:39:52,719
but it's on the back it's mostly symbols

2286
01:39:57,350 --> 01:39:55,280
and but like you said if you look

2287
01:40:00,149 --> 01:39:57,360
carefully even on this side you can see

2288
01:40:02,310 --> 01:40:00,159
a little head right there

2289
01:40:04,550 --> 01:40:02,320
it's it's like everywhere you go this

2290
01:40:06,310 --> 01:40:04,560
one i don't even know if you can see it

2291
01:40:08,870 --> 01:40:06,320
but right here

2292
01:40:09,990 --> 01:40:08,880
there is a thing coming out of like a

2293
01:40:11,830 --> 01:40:10,000
sphere

2294
01:40:14,070 --> 01:40:11,840
in this guy's hand

2295
01:40:16,310 --> 01:40:14,080
and if you look close do you see that

2296
01:40:19,350 --> 01:40:16,320
face yes right there yes it's like

2297
01:40:22,709 --> 01:40:19,360
upside down yep but it's creepy as hell

2298
01:40:25,430 --> 01:40:22,719
and most of the time when you see

2299
01:40:28,390 --> 01:40:25,440
carvings on a flat surface it's in

2300
01:40:31,189 --> 01:40:28,400
profile right but this one is looking at

2301
01:40:33,430 --> 01:40:31,199
you straight on right and maybe uh with

2302
01:40:36,550 --> 01:40:33,440
the head turned just a little bit

2303
01:40:38,310 --> 01:40:36,560
and you don't see that very often so i

2304
01:40:40,870 --> 01:40:38,320
mean i don't know man it's almost like

2305
01:40:42,950 --> 01:40:40,880
somebody was tripping on acid or

2306
01:40:43,910 --> 01:40:42,960
something i mean when i look at these

2307
01:40:46,390 --> 01:40:43,920
things

2308
01:40:48,310 --> 01:40:46,400
there's a part of me that sees that but

2309
01:40:51,030 --> 01:40:48,320
then the closer you look

2310
01:40:53,430 --> 01:40:51,040
the more intelligence you see the

2311
01:40:55,109 --> 01:40:53,440
mathematics the geometry the astronomy

2312
01:40:57,990 --> 01:40:55,119
that you talked about

2313
01:41:00,229 --> 01:40:58,000
and the sophistication it actually

2314
01:41:02,229 --> 01:41:00,239
starts to blow your mind i mean the

2315
01:41:05,430 --> 01:41:02,239
closer you look the more you see

2316
01:41:06,870 --> 01:41:05,440
and i just i you know the the gut

2317
01:41:09,189 --> 01:41:06,880
the gut level

2318
01:41:10,790 --> 01:41:09,199
part of me says

2319
01:41:13,030 --> 01:41:10,800
there's an intelligence here these

2320
01:41:14,390 --> 01:41:13,040
things are not somebody's

2321
01:41:17,030 --> 01:41:14,400
knock-off

2322
01:41:19,270 --> 01:41:17,040
artwork that they're selling for cheap

2323
01:41:21,510 --> 01:41:19,280
things are beautiful they are beautiful

2324
01:41:24,950 --> 01:41:21,520
and okay let's say they're all hoaxed

2325
01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:24,960
right it's just a factory that artist

2326
01:41:32,149 --> 01:41:28,000
needs to be celebrated

2327
01:41:34,709 --> 01:41:32,159
that artist is good i mean absolutely

2328
01:41:37,990 --> 01:41:34,719
and he can't be the only one they're all

2329
01:41:40,629 --> 01:41:38,000
good i mean most of the pieces i've seen

2330
01:41:43,189 --> 01:41:40,639
are are outstanding now there's a few

2331
01:41:45,270 --> 01:41:43,199
that are a little rougher but

2332
01:41:47,830 --> 01:41:45,280
not many i mean most of this stuff is

2333
01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:47,840
just beautiful i love it yeah you can

2334
01:41:53,350 --> 01:41:50,880
see the imitation ones right we're like

2335
01:41:55,030 --> 01:41:53,360
yeah no no no pass no that's not the

2336
01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:55,040
real stuff no no

2337
01:42:00,149 --> 01:41:57,360
when you see something that says nasa on

2338
01:42:01,990 --> 01:42:00,159
it you know it's like come on guys

2339
01:42:05,669 --> 01:42:02,000
not so much right

2340
01:42:06,870 --> 01:42:05,679
okay now um let's uh let's talk e.t for

2341
01:42:08,070 --> 01:42:06,880
a second

2342
01:42:11,990 --> 01:42:08,080
um

2343
01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:12,000
uh a couple of years ago uh you

2344
01:42:17,430 --> 01:42:15,040
you got your feet wet um it's it's been

2345
01:42:20,229 --> 01:42:17,440
almost a couple of years now

2346
01:42:21,430 --> 01:42:20,239
in to the ufo game and it caught you by

2347
01:42:24,709 --> 01:42:21,440
surprise

2348
01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:26,390
let's talk about that where are you on

2349
01:42:34,310 --> 01:42:32,550
well this this indoctrination that

2350
01:42:36,870 --> 01:42:34,320
you're talking about was the conscious

2351
01:42:37,669 --> 01:42:36,880
life expo that that you invited me to

2352
01:42:39,750 --> 01:42:37,679
and

2353
01:42:41,669 --> 01:42:39,760
you know i i got to give you credit

2354
01:42:43,189 --> 01:42:41,679
because it was really

2355
01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:43,199
something uh

2356
01:42:47,510 --> 01:42:45,600
the the majority of of the conference

2357
01:42:49,109 --> 01:42:47,520
was subject matter that really wasn't in

2358
01:42:50,709 --> 01:42:49,119
my wheelhouse

2359
01:42:52,550 --> 01:42:50,719
and

2360
01:42:54,070 --> 01:42:52,560
but you know i i thought it went

2361
01:42:56,229 --> 01:42:54,080
extremely well

2362
01:42:57,910 --> 01:42:56,239
and i met a lot of wonderful people that

2363
01:43:01,350 --> 01:42:57,920
are in this um

2364
01:43:04,229 --> 01:43:01,360
ufo community for lack of a another term

2365
01:43:05,910 --> 01:43:04,239
and i met some really incredible people

2366
01:43:07,510 --> 01:43:05,920
and actually the some of the people i

2367
01:43:10,390 --> 01:43:07,520
met actually got me turned on to the

2368
01:43:12,149 --> 01:43:10,400
texas stones that's where i got the lead

2369
01:43:13,590 --> 01:43:12,159
to uh to

2370
01:43:15,669 --> 01:43:13,600
find out about those and then go

2371
01:43:17,750 --> 01:43:15,679
investigate them but

2372
01:43:19,270 --> 01:43:17,760
you know after that it was only a few

2373
01:43:21,510 --> 01:43:19,280
months later that

2374
01:43:22,709 --> 01:43:21,520
you know i was contacted by a person

2375
01:43:25,189 --> 01:43:22,719
with uh

2376
01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:25,199
with nasic actually the national air and

2377
01:43:30,310 --> 01:43:27,280
space intelligence center

2378
01:43:31,750 --> 01:43:30,320
who said that they were looking for uh

2379
01:43:33,270 --> 01:43:31,760
reaching out to people they thought

2380
01:43:36,629 --> 01:43:33,280
could help them with the disclosure

2381
01:43:38,550 --> 01:43:36,639
program which was um a relatively new

2382
01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:38,560
program that was

2383
01:43:44,070 --> 01:43:41,760
initiated in 2017

2384
01:43:47,189 --> 01:43:44,080
you know our our government decided that

2385
01:43:48,870 --> 01:43:47,199
this deep secrecy nobody can talk we're

2386
01:43:51,830 --> 01:43:48,880
not going to let the public know what's

2387
01:43:53,430 --> 01:43:51,840
going on about et's suddenly did a 180

2388
01:43:54,629 --> 01:43:53,440
degree turn

2389
01:43:56,229 --> 01:43:54,639
and so

2390
01:43:58,390 --> 01:43:56,239
they they

2391
01:44:00,390 --> 01:43:58,400
asked me you know this person asked me

2392
01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:00,400
if i would be willing to help and of

2393
01:44:04,070 --> 01:44:02,320
course i went through the usual vetting

2394
01:44:05,510 --> 01:44:04,080
process they said well how do i know you

2395
01:44:07,510 --> 01:44:05,520
are who you are

2396
01:44:10,149 --> 01:44:07,520
and we went through that process

2397
01:44:12,310 --> 01:44:10,159
including a personal visit and we

2398
01:44:15,270 --> 01:44:12,320
actually had a second personal visit uh

2399
01:44:16,709 --> 01:44:15,280
this person was with us about a week ago

2400
01:44:18,950 --> 01:44:16,719
for a week

2401
01:44:20,229 --> 01:44:18,960
and helped us with a conference that we

2402
01:44:22,070 --> 01:44:20,239
uh

2403
01:44:23,910 --> 01:44:22,080
put together a series of lectures where

2404
01:44:25,350 --> 01:44:23,920
i presented some new material on the

2405
01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:25,360
templars but

2406
01:44:28,550 --> 01:44:27,280
anyway we spent quite a bit of time

2407
01:44:30,310 --> 01:44:28,560
together

2408
01:44:31,910 --> 01:44:30,320
and

2409
01:44:33,430 --> 01:44:31,920
one of the things there's a couple of

2410
01:44:35,430 --> 01:44:33,440
interesting things that happened that

2411
01:44:38,550 --> 01:44:35,440
are new

2412
01:44:39,510 --> 01:44:38,560
one of them is

2413
01:44:46,629 --> 01:44:39,520
we

2414
01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:46,639
i said what do you want me to say if i

2415
01:44:51,750 --> 01:44:48,480
come on jimmy church's show

2416
01:44:53,510 --> 01:44:51,760
what is the message that you want us to

2417
01:44:54,709 --> 01:44:53,520
to convey

2418
01:44:59,430 --> 01:44:54,719
and

2419
01:45:01,669 --> 01:44:59,440
similar to the message that i've been

2420
01:45:04,790 --> 01:45:01,679
saying on other programs and and

2421
01:45:07,830 --> 01:45:04,800
basically it's that

2422
01:45:08,950 --> 01:45:07,840
the earth is part of the interstellar

2423
01:45:11,270 --> 01:45:08,960
community

2424
01:45:12,550 --> 01:45:11,280
it's one of many other planets in the

2425
01:45:15,910 --> 01:45:12,560
solar system

2426
01:45:16,870 --> 01:45:15,920
that is teeming with life but in the

2427
01:45:19,030 --> 01:45:16,880
group

2428
01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:19,040
you mean in the milky way not the solar

2429
01:45:25,830 --> 01:45:22,560
system well i guess we'll call it the he

2430
01:45:27,669 --> 01:45:25,840
calls it the interstellar community and

2431
01:45:29,830 --> 01:45:27,679
i guess you could say the milky way i'm

2432
01:45:32,629 --> 01:45:29,840
not sure exactly what the definition is

2433
01:45:35,030 --> 01:45:32,639
but we're talking about a lot of planets

2434
01:45:37,430 --> 01:45:35,040
a lot of stars and a lot of other

2435
01:45:40,709 --> 01:45:37,440
planets that have life on them and life

2436
01:45:42,070 --> 01:45:40,719
forms intelligent life forms like us but

2437
01:45:44,470 --> 01:45:42,080
the other thing that's important to

2438
01:45:45,750 --> 01:45:44,480
remember is that we are part of that

2439
01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:45,760
collective

2440
01:45:48,709 --> 01:45:47,760
and if something goes wrong here it

2441
01:45:50,390 --> 01:45:48,719
affects

2442
01:45:52,229 --> 01:45:50,400
everybody right

2443
01:45:55,109 --> 01:45:52,239
uh it's kind of like the butterfly

2444
01:45:57,189 --> 01:45:55,119
effect and and for those that you know

2445
01:45:59,830 --> 01:45:57,199
don't know what that is it's you know if

2446
01:46:01,830 --> 01:45:59,840
you could go back in time

2447
01:46:04,629 --> 01:46:01,840
and you

2448
01:46:06,950 --> 01:46:04,639
could change something that happened say

2449
01:46:09,030 --> 01:46:06,960
in the distant past

2450
01:46:11,510 --> 01:46:09,040
that would trigger a series of events

2451
01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:11,520
going forward into the future to the

2452
01:46:15,590 --> 01:46:14,400
present that would potentially cause a

2453
01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:15,600
radical

2454
01:46:20,149 --> 01:46:17,760
uh maybe a dramatic

2455
01:46:23,590 --> 01:46:20,159
negative change in the world as we

2456
01:46:25,030 --> 01:46:23,600
understand it today so that's important

2457
01:46:27,669 --> 01:46:25,040
and

2458
01:46:31,109 --> 01:46:27,679
the message is clear we are not taking

2459
01:46:33,510 --> 01:46:31,119
care of our planet we're destroying it

2460
01:46:35,669 --> 01:46:33,520
and this is our home

2461
01:46:37,430 --> 01:46:35,679
and we should have

2462
01:46:39,750 --> 01:46:37,440
a vested interest in this you would

2463
01:46:43,189 --> 01:46:39,760
think that's obvious but by the way we

2464
01:46:45,510 --> 01:46:43,199
behave as human beings it's not obvious

2465
01:46:47,510 --> 01:46:45,520
but it's not just us

2466
01:46:49,270 --> 01:46:47,520
there are

2467
01:46:51,109 --> 01:46:49,280
other beings

2468
01:46:53,750 --> 01:46:51,119
that look like us

2469
01:46:56,310 --> 01:46:53,760
that live here among us

2470
01:46:57,590 --> 01:46:56,320
in fact i asked him the last time he was

2471
01:46:59,590 --> 01:46:57,600
here i said

2472
01:47:00,709 --> 01:46:59,600
how many of these people that walk among

2473
01:47:03,750 --> 01:47:00,719
us

2474
01:47:06,790 --> 01:47:03,760
on this planet are there he said well

2475
01:47:08,870 --> 01:47:06,800
about one percent of the population in

2476
01:47:10,550 --> 01:47:08,880
the united states i'm not sure about the

2477
01:47:12,390 --> 01:47:10,560
other countries but i do know about the

2478
01:47:14,229 --> 01:47:12,400
united states

2479
01:47:15,590 --> 01:47:14,239
think about that

2480
01:47:16,709 --> 01:47:15,600
how many people do we have in this

2481
01:47:19,590 --> 01:47:16,719
country

2482
01:47:23,189 --> 01:47:19,600
somewhere over 400 million

2483
01:47:25,990 --> 01:47:23,199
does that mean we have four million

2484
01:47:28,070 --> 01:47:26,000
aliens that look like us walking among

2485
01:47:30,550 --> 01:47:28,080
us living amongst us

2486
01:47:34,070 --> 01:47:30,560
and essentially the answer is yes in

2487
01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:34,080
fact jimmy you could be one i wouldn't

2488
01:47:38,070 --> 01:47:37,199
know i could be one you wouldn't know

2489
01:47:40,070 --> 01:47:38,080
and

2490
01:47:41,910 --> 01:47:40,080
i gotta tell you that was

2491
01:47:42,950 --> 01:47:41,920
that was something i had to wrap my head

2492
01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:42,960
around

2493
01:47:46,390 --> 01:47:45,040
um but you know getting back to the

2494
01:47:47,510 --> 01:47:46,400
message

2495
01:47:50,149 --> 01:47:47,520
i think it's

2496
01:47:51,350 --> 01:47:50,159
you know anybody with a with a

2497
01:47:53,590 --> 01:47:51,360
reasonably

2498
01:47:54,629 --> 01:47:53,600
functioning reflective

2499
01:47:56,950 --> 01:47:54,639
brain

2500
01:47:59,350 --> 01:47:56,960
knows that what we're doing to our world

2501
01:48:02,149 --> 01:47:59,360
is not good i mean the earth is

2502
01:48:03,669 --> 01:48:02,159
screaming right now the wildfires

2503
01:48:06,390 --> 01:48:03,679
um

2504
01:48:08,950 --> 01:48:06,400
drought the population the droughts no

2505
01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:08,960
water yeah yeah i mean there's no

2506
01:48:14,229 --> 01:48:11,440
question about it the other thing

2507
01:48:17,590 --> 01:48:14,239
that he said is they will not

2508
01:48:18,390 --> 01:48:17,600
and have not let us destroy our the

2509
01:48:20,470 --> 01:48:18,400
planet

2510
01:48:22,709 --> 01:48:20,480
with nuclear weapons that's the

2511
01:48:25,510 --> 01:48:22,719
non-starter everything else that we're

2512
01:48:28,550 --> 01:48:25,520
doing to the planet eventually will kill

2513
01:48:30,310 --> 01:48:28,560
ourselves but the planet will rebound

2514
01:48:33,430 --> 01:48:30,320
but not if we get nuclear weapons

2515
01:48:35,910 --> 01:48:33,440
involved it'll destroy the ionosphere

2516
01:48:38,470 --> 01:48:35,920
and and that will be the end of it

2517
01:48:40,070 --> 01:48:38,480
and we'll end up like mars

2518
01:48:43,910 --> 01:48:40,080
and

2519
01:48:44,790 --> 01:48:43,920
they don't like the way we treat each

2520
01:48:47,910 --> 01:48:44,800
other

2521
01:48:50,229 --> 01:48:47,920
um we all know that we're one species

2522
01:48:52,870 --> 01:48:50,239
but we have so much racism we have so

2523
01:48:53,750 --> 01:48:52,880
much misogyny we just need to treat each

2524
01:48:56,790 --> 01:48:53,760
other

2525
01:48:57,669 --> 01:48:56,800
better this isn't some grand revelation

2526
01:49:00,709 --> 01:48:57,679
either

2527
01:49:02,550 --> 01:49:00,719
we all know it so let's do it

2528
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:02,560
and let's start taking care of our

2529
01:49:06,229 --> 01:49:04,480
planet now there's only so much that

2530
01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:06,239
everybody can do

2531
01:49:09,590 --> 01:49:07,440
but what

2532
01:49:10,790 --> 01:49:09,600
the message that was most important to

2533
01:49:11,830 --> 01:49:10,800
me

2534
01:49:14,629 --> 01:49:11,840
is that

2535
01:49:16,950 --> 01:49:14,639
we don't need to get every single person

2536
01:49:17,910 --> 01:49:16,960
on the earth on board that's not going

2537
01:49:19,669 --> 01:49:17,920
to happen

2538
01:49:21,750 --> 01:49:19,679
and in fact the percentage of people

2539
01:49:25,589 --> 01:49:21,760
that we need to get on board

2540
01:49:27,430 --> 01:49:25,599
to initiate a change in the direction

2541
01:49:29,750 --> 01:49:27,440
is actually quite small it was a lot

2542
01:49:32,149 --> 01:49:29,760
smaller than i thought on the order of

2543
01:49:35,910 --> 01:49:32,159
one to two percent

2544
01:49:37,030 --> 01:49:35,920
and so that's doable that's very doable

2545
01:49:40,149 --> 01:49:37,040
and

2546
01:49:41,030 --> 01:49:40,159
i i you know i i i take this message to

2547
01:49:42,550 --> 01:49:41,040
heart

2548
01:49:46,950 --> 01:49:42,560
this person

2549
01:49:49,109 --> 01:49:46,960
and i had some very deep conversations

2550
01:49:49,910 --> 01:49:49,119
we actually got a little testy with each

2551
01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:49,920
other

2552
01:49:54,550 --> 01:49:52,560
but we also got

2553
01:49:56,149 --> 01:49:54,560
very close to each other

2554
01:49:57,669 --> 01:49:56,159
because we we talked about some

2555
01:49:59,910 --> 01:49:57,679
sensitive things

2556
01:50:01,750 --> 01:49:59,920
and i want to be sure that if i go on a

2557
01:50:03,510 --> 01:50:01,760
radio program like this

2558
01:50:05,830 --> 01:50:03,520
that that i'm talking about something

2559
01:50:07,910 --> 01:50:05,840
that is as serious as this

2560
01:50:09,430 --> 01:50:07,920
and think about this jimmy is there

2561
01:50:11,990 --> 01:50:09,440
anything more important than this

2562
01:50:13,350 --> 01:50:12,000
subject matter what's a bigger story no

2563
01:50:18,870 --> 01:50:13,360
there isn't one

2564
01:50:22,790 --> 01:50:18,880
you know i know you

2565
01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:22,800
and you have a skeptical mind you have a

2566
01:50:27,510 --> 01:50:24,800
pragmatic mind

2567
01:50:30,550 --> 01:50:27,520
you think sensibly

2568
01:50:33,589 --> 01:50:30,560
you also think 3d you're looking through

2569
01:50:36,550 --> 01:50:33,599
stuff and you're thinking for answers

2570
01:50:38,470 --> 01:50:36,560
but you are

2571
01:50:40,870 --> 01:50:38,480
trying to be not always

2572
01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:40,880
but you try to be black and white

2573
01:50:46,310 --> 01:50:41,760
right

2574
01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:46,320
and now you jump into this how does your

2575
01:50:51,510 --> 01:50:47,920
brain

2576
01:50:53,830 --> 01:50:51,520
you know your thought process adapt to

2577
01:50:56,470 --> 01:50:53,840
something like this

2578
01:50:58,950 --> 01:50:56,480
because it's the opposite of

2579
01:51:02,149 --> 01:50:58,960
of what you do professionally and and

2580
01:51:05,430 --> 01:51:02,159
how you carry yourself

2581
01:51:07,030 --> 01:51:05,440
well that's that's a good question and

2582
01:51:09,109 --> 01:51:07,040
but you know what jimmy i mean the

2583
01:51:10,229 --> 01:51:09,119
bottom line is is that i'm a logical

2584
01:51:11,990 --> 01:51:10,239
person too

2585
01:51:13,589 --> 01:51:12,000
and everything that i just talked to you

2586
01:51:16,550 --> 01:51:13,599
about

2587
01:51:18,870 --> 01:51:16,560
makes sense to me i mean i i've been

2588
01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:18,880
a population control person for a long

2589
01:51:23,990 --> 01:51:21,280
time i used to look at the graphs and

2590
01:51:25,750 --> 01:51:24,000
i'd say wow in my lifetime

2591
01:51:28,390 --> 01:51:25,760
we're gonna get to a point where things

2592
01:51:30,070 --> 01:51:28,400
are gonna start to be difficult and and

2593
01:51:32,629 --> 01:51:30,080
that time is now

2594
01:51:35,189 --> 01:51:32,639
and we've known it was coming we've seen

2595
01:51:37,669 --> 01:51:35,199
it coming this is logical

2596
01:51:39,030 --> 01:51:37,679
and we just haven't done enough

2597
01:51:43,990 --> 01:51:39,040
to

2598
01:51:45,990 --> 01:51:44,000
point of critical mass so

2599
01:51:48,229 --> 01:51:46,000
you know there's a philosophical side to

2600
01:51:49,189 --> 01:51:48,239
all of this but there's a pragmatic side

2601
01:51:52,070 --> 01:51:49,199
to this

2602
01:51:53,109 --> 01:51:52,080
and uh the pragmatic side is winning

2603
01:51:56,470 --> 01:51:53,119
and

2604
01:51:57,430 --> 01:51:56,480
you know the truth of the matter is

2605
01:52:00,310 --> 01:51:57,440
you know

2606
01:52:02,709 --> 01:52:00,320
for whatever reason i am now in a a

2607
01:52:05,350 --> 01:52:02,719
position where people

2608
01:52:07,510 --> 01:52:05,360
um kind of like what we do they listen

2609
01:52:10,629 --> 01:52:07,520
to what i say i want to think that

2610
01:52:11,990 --> 01:52:10,639
people find me somewhat credible i like

2611
01:52:14,390 --> 01:52:12,000
to have fun

2612
01:52:16,709 --> 01:52:14,400
but when it comes to stuff like this

2613
01:52:18,629 --> 01:52:16,719
it's not kidding around and i wouldn't

2614
01:52:20,709 --> 01:52:18,639
put my name on it i wouldn't be out

2615
01:52:22,629 --> 01:52:20,719
there i wouldn't be on your show jimmy

2616
01:52:25,350 --> 01:52:22,639
if i didn't think this was the right

2617
01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:25,360
thing to do well i don't i don't see a

2618
01:52:28,830 --> 01:52:27,760
downside to it no there there certainly

2619
01:52:32,550 --> 01:52:28,840
is not a

2620
01:52:34,229 --> 01:52:32,560
downside um but i remember

2621
01:52:35,830 --> 01:52:34,239
many times

2622
01:52:39,589 --> 01:52:35,840
you and i were

2623
01:52:40,950 --> 01:52:39,599
we almost went into an alien e.t

2624
01:52:43,189 --> 01:52:40,960
conversation

2625
01:52:45,030 --> 01:52:43,199
and you always backed off to me at all i

2626
01:52:46,229 --> 01:52:45,040
i i know nothing about this it's not

2627
01:52:48,070 --> 01:52:46,239
what i do

2628
01:52:50,470 --> 01:52:48,080
can we get back to what we were talking

2629
01:52:51,669 --> 01:52:50,480
about yeah how many times did we do that

2630
01:52:54,310 --> 01:52:51,679
right

2631
01:52:56,390 --> 01:52:54,320
and well but man you know i was just

2632
01:52:58,390 --> 01:52:56,400
being honest with you and i had nothing

2633
01:53:00,629 --> 01:52:58,400
against the topic it just wasn't in my

2634
01:53:02,790 --> 01:53:00,639
wheelhouse at the time yeah and you

2635
01:53:04,550 --> 01:53:02,800
called when you called me

2636
01:53:06,870 --> 01:53:04,560
and you said jimmy i got to talk to you

2637
01:53:08,950 --> 01:53:06,880
about e.t and janet was sitting next to

2638
01:53:10,229 --> 01:53:08,960
you and she starts laughing

2639
01:53:11,270 --> 01:53:10,239
and uh

2640
01:53:13,910 --> 01:53:11,280
i was like

2641
01:53:15,510 --> 01:53:13,920
are you okay jimmy we need to talk and i

2642
01:53:18,629 --> 01:53:15,520
have some questions

2643
01:53:20,310 --> 01:53:18,639
and janet is here with me and and we

2644
01:53:22,950 --> 01:53:20,320
need to talk to you

2645
01:53:25,510 --> 01:53:22,960
about about aliens

2646
01:53:26,950 --> 01:53:25,520
what what the hell has happened to this

2647
01:53:28,149 --> 01:53:26,960
world

2648
01:53:30,470 --> 01:53:28,159
that that we are having this

2649
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:30,480
conversation but um

2650
01:53:36,149 --> 01:53:32,960
uh it must have been difficult for you

2651
01:53:38,550 --> 01:53:36,159
to uh to to go in and you did

2652
01:53:40,550 --> 01:53:38,560
you you jumped in to the deep end of the

2653
01:53:41,430 --> 01:53:40,560
pool pretty quickly

2654
01:53:43,669 --> 01:53:41,440
yeah

2655
01:53:46,229 --> 01:53:43,679
well you know what honestly it really

2656
01:53:47,430 --> 01:53:46,239
wasn't that difficult because

2657
01:53:49,830 --> 01:53:47,440
i saw

2658
01:53:50,790 --> 01:53:49,840
the evidence it was logical it made

2659
01:53:52,870 --> 01:53:50,800
sense

2660
01:53:55,830 --> 01:53:52,880
and frankly it

2661
01:53:58,310 --> 01:53:55,840
kind of filled in some missing pieces of

2662
01:54:00,470 --> 01:53:58,320
this giant puzzle that i'm working on

2663
01:54:02,390 --> 01:54:00,480
that i didn't even know were missing and

2664
01:54:04,629 --> 01:54:02,400
all of a sudden i started to think in a

2665
01:54:07,350 --> 01:54:04,639
little bit of a different way

2666
01:54:09,109 --> 01:54:07,360
and i'm like holy crap

2667
01:54:11,430 --> 01:54:09,119
there's some pieces here that i hadn't

2668
01:54:13,030 --> 01:54:11,440
gotten to yet and they fit

2669
01:54:15,910 --> 01:54:13,040
and so

2670
01:54:18,550 --> 01:54:15,920
you know what once that happens to me

2671
01:54:20,390 --> 01:54:18,560
um let's go with it follow the evidence

2672
01:54:22,390 --> 01:54:20,400
where it goes and sometimes it'll take

2673
01:54:25,189 --> 01:54:22,400
you a place you didn't expect but if

2674
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:25,199
that trail is is solid

2675
01:54:30,950 --> 01:54:27,520
follow it and that's what i've done and

2676
01:54:32,470 --> 01:54:30,960
here we are well okay so now if we if we

2677
01:54:34,390 --> 01:54:32,480
take a look at

2678
01:54:36,629 --> 01:54:34,400
the developments over the last couple of

2679
01:54:40,149 --> 01:54:36,639
years since you and i had that uh very

2680
01:54:41,189 --> 01:54:40,159
amazing first phone call uh with janet

2681
01:54:43,510 --> 01:54:41,199
um

2682
01:54:45,030 --> 01:54:43,520
we've got the uap task force report

2683
01:54:46,310 --> 01:54:45,040
we've got the senate intelligence

2684
01:54:48,950 --> 01:54:46,320
committee

2685
01:54:51,510 --> 01:54:48,960
uh we've got uh some strange

2686
01:54:53,830 --> 01:54:51,520
conversations coming from the dia the

2687
01:54:54,709 --> 01:54:53,840
defense intelligence agency

2688
01:54:57,109 --> 01:54:54,719
um

2689
01:54:59,750 --> 01:54:57,119
and all of this is happening in real

2690
01:55:02,709 --> 01:54:59,760
time uh what do you what did you what do

2691
01:55:04,629 --> 01:55:02,719
you make of that and yeah

2692
01:55:06,229 --> 01:55:04,639
no i'm telling you keep going brother

2693
01:55:08,310 --> 01:55:06,239
right

2694
01:55:10,310 --> 01:55:08,320
because i'm you're asking for it i'm

2695
01:55:11,510 --> 01:55:10,320
going to give it to you yes

2696
01:55:14,070 --> 01:55:11,520
it's it's

2697
01:55:15,030 --> 01:55:14,080
for me it's crazy town right it's just

2698
01:55:18,870 --> 01:55:15,040
coming

2699
01:55:20,870 --> 01:55:18,880
uh almost too fast to to digest

2700
01:55:23,189 --> 01:55:20,880
everything that is coming in i've wanted

2701
01:55:24,790 --> 01:55:23,199
this to happen for a long time

2702
01:55:27,109 --> 01:55:24,800
but here we are

2703
01:55:28,550 --> 01:55:27,119
and now you are in the mix what did you

2704
01:55:30,950 --> 01:55:28,560
make of uh

2705
01:55:34,470 --> 01:55:30,960
the uap task force report when it came

2706
01:55:37,669 --> 01:55:34,480
out well personally based on

2707
01:55:41,189 --> 01:55:37,679
what i had been told by our contact it

2708
01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:41,199
was underwhelming to say the least

2709
01:55:48,709 --> 01:55:44,239
the reason for that

2710
01:55:51,669 --> 01:55:48,719
we think was due to the cia

2711
01:55:53,430 --> 01:55:51,679
which is um

2712
01:55:55,030 --> 01:55:53,440
i don't know how else to say it heavily

2713
01:55:56,629 --> 01:55:55,040
influenced by

2714
01:55:58,550 --> 01:55:56,639
the vatican

2715
01:56:02,070 --> 01:55:58,560
uh jesuits

2716
01:56:04,709 --> 01:56:02,080
who have a vested interest in this topic

2717
01:56:05,669 --> 01:56:04,719
because there are literally billions of

2718
01:56:08,550 --> 01:56:05,679
people

2719
01:56:09,990 --> 01:56:08,560
on this planet that uh embrace

2720
01:56:12,070 --> 01:56:10,000
catholicism

2721
01:56:14,870 --> 01:56:12,080
and the concern was

2722
01:56:17,030 --> 01:56:14,880
it's too soon um

2723
01:56:19,270 --> 01:56:17,040
what's going to happen to our consist

2724
01:56:20,870 --> 01:56:19,280
our uh constituency what's going to

2725
01:56:24,390 --> 01:56:20,880
happen to the message that we've been

2726
01:56:26,550 --> 01:56:24,400
preaching for nearly 2000 years

2727
01:56:27,830 --> 01:56:26,560
that's a problem for them now some

2728
01:56:29,510 --> 01:56:27,840
people are going to say wait a minute

2729
01:56:31,990 --> 01:56:29,520
wait a minute what are you talking about

2730
01:56:35,270 --> 01:56:32,000
the catholic church come on well i will

2731
01:56:37,830 --> 01:56:35,280
tell you this and it has been confirmed

2732
01:56:40,070 --> 01:56:37,840
that i'm being suppressed

2733
01:56:43,430 --> 01:56:40,080
and the evidence i would give you is

2734
01:56:45,510 --> 01:56:43,440
google the kensington runestone okay

2735
01:56:47,669 --> 01:56:45,520
i'm not saying this to brag i'm telling

2736
01:56:49,750 --> 01:56:47,679
you this because it's a fact

2737
01:56:51,750 --> 01:56:49,760
there is no living person walking on

2738
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:51,760
this planet has that has done more

2739
01:56:57,589 --> 01:56:54,239
research on the kensington runestone

2740
01:56:58,390 --> 01:56:57,599
published four books that contain all or

2741
01:57:00,470 --> 01:56:58,400
some

2742
01:57:02,709 --> 01:57:00,480
new information about this artifact but

2743
01:57:04,229 --> 01:57:02,719
if you go on the kensington runestone

2744
01:57:06,070 --> 01:57:04,239
wiki page

2745
01:57:07,430 --> 01:57:06,080
you won't find my name mentioned

2746
01:57:10,310 --> 01:57:07,440
anywhere

2747
01:57:12,709 --> 01:57:10,320
it will be considered a hoax it is not a

2748
01:57:14,470 --> 01:57:12,719
hoax absolutely not it is the most

2749
01:57:16,709 --> 01:57:14,480
important historical artifact in the

2750
01:57:18,470 --> 01:57:16,719
history of this country arguably the

2751
01:57:20,310 --> 01:57:18,480
world but then you've got to ask

2752
01:57:21,990 --> 01:57:20,320
yourself the question

2753
01:57:25,109 --> 01:57:22,000
what the heck's going on here why is it

2754
01:57:27,589 --> 01:57:25,119
my name there well there's a reason look

2755
01:57:29,430 --> 01:57:27,599
at the newport tower it's a fake no it's

2756
01:57:31,430 --> 01:57:29,440
not you won't see my name there i've

2757
01:57:33,109 --> 01:57:31,440
done a lot there the narragansett

2758
01:57:35,270 --> 01:57:33,119
runestones the back creek stone the

2759
01:57:37,589 --> 01:57:35,280
tucson lead artifacts i mean it goes on

2760
01:57:40,070 --> 01:57:37,599
and on and on

2761
01:57:41,189 --> 01:57:40,080
the truth of the matter is we are being

2762
01:57:43,430 --> 01:57:41,199
censored

2763
01:57:46,149 --> 01:57:43,440
because as i've said in interviews many

2764
01:57:47,109 --> 01:57:46,159
times including on this show jimmy

2765
01:57:49,510 --> 01:57:47,119
is that

2766
01:57:51,910 --> 01:57:49,520
the minute you accept the runestone the

2767
01:57:54,550 --> 01:57:51,920
newport tower any of these artifacts

2768
01:57:56,709 --> 01:57:54,560
what happens is it triggers a series of

2769
01:57:58,950 --> 01:57:56,719
dominoes to fall

2770
01:58:01,910 --> 01:57:58,960
and one of those trails goes right to

2771
01:58:04,790 --> 01:58:01,920
the vatican and what happens is their

2772
01:58:06,629 --> 01:58:04,800
message starts to crumble so getting

2773
01:58:08,070 --> 01:58:06,639
full circle back to what we're talking

2774
01:58:10,149 --> 01:58:08,080
about

2775
01:58:12,950 --> 01:58:10,159
they're involved in this and they are

2776
01:58:15,030 --> 01:58:12,960
keeping it suppressed that's why it was

2777
01:58:17,830 --> 01:58:15,040
basically a big nothing burger when it

2778
01:58:19,510 --> 01:58:17,840
came out but you and i both know that

2779
01:58:21,669 --> 01:58:19,520
our government knows a hell of a lot

2780
01:58:23,830 --> 01:58:21,679
more than they're telling us i just told

2781
01:58:27,430 --> 01:58:23,840
you what they've told me

2782
01:58:30,470 --> 01:58:27,440
so we know that the official message

2783
01:58:32,390 --> 01:58:30,480
is been sanitized and the question is

2784
01:58:33,830 --> 01:58:32,400
how long do we have to wait

2785
01:58:35,910 --> 01:58:33,840
when is it that you guys are going to

2786
01:58:37,990 --> 01:58:35,920
start telling us the truth and knock off

2787
01:58:40,229 --> 01:58:38,000
this bs right

2788
01:58:42,790 --> 01:58:40,239
i'm i'm sick and tired of it i've been

2789
01:58:45,750 --> 01:58:42,800
censored for years and all i'm trying to

2790
01:58:47,430 --> 01:58:45,760
do is get to the truth and i think you

2791
01:58:50,149 --> 01:58:47,440
and all the other people in this

2792
01:58:53,430 --> 01:58:50,159
community that i am new to and thank you

2793
01:58:55,270 --> 01:58:53,440
for welcoming me i i i don't even feel

2794
01:58:57,589 --> 01:58:55,280
like i deserve it sometimes i meet

2795
01:58:58,950 --> 01:58:57,599
somebody like linda moulton howe who is

2796
01:59:01,350 --> 01:58:58,960
so wonderful

2797
01:59:03,669 --> 01:59:01,360
um but you guys have embraced me and

2798
01:59:06,790 --> 01:59:03,679
we're all working together to get to the

2799
01:59:07,830 --> 01:59:06,800
truth but yet there are some forces out

2800
01:59:09,510 --> 01:59:07,840
there that

2801
01:59:11,510 --> 01:59:09,520
you know are working against us i think

2802
01:59:13,990 --> 01:59:11,520
that's the simple way to say it

2803
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:14,000
do you think um when you look at the

2804
01:59:19,589 --> 01:59:17,920
totality of of things whether it's

2805
01:59:20,470 --> 01:59:19,599
the knights templar or the hooked acts

2806
01:59:23,189 --> 01:59:20,480
or

2807
01:59:25,510 --> 01:59:23,199
the discovery of america going back to

2808
01:59:27,910 --> 01:59:25,520
the 1300s and before

2809
01:59:30,149 --> 01:59:27,920
uh certainly trans-oceanic cultures

2810
01:59:31,990 --> 01:59:30,159
coming out of the mediterranean and what

2811
01:59:33,750 --> 01:59:32,000
you know all the way back to jerusalem

2812
01:59:34,709 --> 01:59:33,760
five thousand years ago four thousand

2813
01:59:36,950 --> 01:59:34,719
three thousand

2814
01:59:39,270 --> 01:59:36,960
all the way through to things like the

2815
01:59:42,790 --> 01:59:39,280
kensington ruinstone

2816
01:59:45,350 --> 01:59:42,800
all of this um may be tough for people

2817
01:59:48,470 --> 01:59:45,360
to accept and you throw in

2818
01:59:49,910 --> 01:59:48,480
uh the ufo subject is the world ready is

2819
01:59:51,430 --> 01:59:49,920
the world ready

2820
01:59:55,189 --> 01:59:51,440
about the the real knowledge of the

2821
01:59:57,830 --> 01:59:55,199
knights templar or or religion

2822
01:59:59,750 --> 01:59:57,840
or the the discovery of this country and

2823
02:00:03,510 --> 01:59:59,760
other cultures around the world is it

2824
02:00:08,629 --> 02:00:06,310
the short answer i think is no um think

2825
02:00:10,950 --> 02:00:08,639
about it like this okay and and and i

2826
02:00:12,629 --> 02:00:10,960
did want to just do one thing

2827
02:00:14,550 --> 02:00:12,639
there was a a

2828
02:00:17,109 --> 02:00:14,560
friend of mine who appeared as a guest

2829
02:00:19,669 --> 02:00:17,119
on the show his name is steven sora and

2830
02:00:20,709 --> 02:00:19,679
his wife terry stephen just passed away

2831
02:00:22,390 --> 02:00:20,719
here

2832
02:00:24,070 --> 02:00:22,400
on the 20th

2833
02:00:26,070 --> 02:00:24,080
he wrote a number of books the lost

2834
02:00:29,030 --> 02:00:26,080
colony of the templars lost treasure the

2835
02:00:31,430 --> 02:00:29,040
knights templar rosicrucian america and

2836
02:00:32,790 --> 02:00:31,440
he appeared as a guest and he was a

2837
02:00:35,589 --> 02:00:32,800
wonderful guy

2838
02:00:37,030 --> 02:00:35,599
and you know his wife texted me and she

2839
02:00:39,430 --> 02:00:37,040
said scott i just want you to know that

2840
02:00:42,550 --> 02:00:39,440
terry passed away and it hit me really

2841
02:00:44,709 --> 02:00:42,560
hard right like losing charlie watts i'm

2842
02:00:47,669 --> 02:00:44,719
a stones fan when people say stones are

2843
02:00:50,310 --> 02:00:47,679
the beatles i'm a stone's guy right so

2844
02:00:52,310 --> 02:00:50,320
it was tough to hear that right and when

2845
02:00:54,390 --> 02:00:52,320
people get bad news

2846
02:00:56,790 --> 02:00:54,400
something devastating happens

2847
02:00:59,109 --> 02:00:56,800
it hits you you know right in the gut

2848
02:01:01,510 --> 02:00:59,119
and it hits your heart but what what

2849
02:01:05,030 --> 02:01:01,520
happens next well

2850
02:01:07,830 --> 02:01:05,040
life goes on right you grieve you mourn

2851
02:01:09,669 --> 02:01:07,840
um you spend time with loved ones and

2852
02:01:12,390 --> 02:01:09,679
then you know you got to get up the next

2853
02:01:15,270 --> 02:01:12,400
day and you got to go on so the point is

2854
02:01:16,149 --> 02:01:15,280
i think people are very resilient

2855
02:01:18,310 --> 02:01:16,159
and

2856
02:01:22,149 --> 02:01:18,320
you know i think the the toughest part

2857
02:01:23,589 --> 02:01:22,159
is for people who have very strong faith

2858
02:01:25,830 --> 02:01:23,599
are going to probably have the hardest

2859
02:01:28,149 --> 02:01:25,840
time digesting some of this but i think

2860
02:01:29,510 --> 02:01:28,159
the vast majority of people out there

2861
02:01:31,669 --> 02:01:29,520
and i think that number is going to

2862
02:01:34,229 --> 02:01:31,679
increase as time goes on

2863
02:01:36,870 --> 02:01:34,239
are going to be surprised they're going

2864
02:01:39,430 --> 02:01:36,880
to have to step back and reflect but

2865
02:01:41,030 --> 02:01:39,440
then after a while if it makes sense

2866
02:01:42,470 --> 02:01:41,040
like it did for me

2867
02:01:45,669 --> 02:01:42,480
you accept it

2868
02:01:49,669 --> 02:01:45,679
and embrace it and you move on

2869
02:01:51,510 --> 02:01:49,679
and and and the truth of the matter is

2870
02:01:53,109 --> 02:01:51,520
we need to get on this and we need to

2871
02:01:54,070 --> 02:01:53,119
get on it now

2872
02:01:57,750 --> 02:01:54,080
and

2873
02:01:59,589 --> 02:01:57,760
not everybody but i think a hell of a

2874
02:02:01,669 --> 02:01:59,599
lot more people will be able to deal

2875
02:02:04,550 --> 02:02:01,679
with this

2876
02:02:06,390 --> 02:02:04,560
and be ready to talk more about it than

2877
02:02:08,629 --> 02:02:06,400
maybe we think that's my personal

2878
02:02:10,470 --> 02:02:08,639
opinion let's take our break right here

2879
02:02:11,669 --> 02:02:10,480
our guest tonight the one and only scott

2880
02:02:13,510 --> 02:02:11,679
walter

2881
02:02:15,510 --> 02:02:13,520
talking e.t

2882
02:02:17,830 --> 02:02:15,520
yes we are this is fade to black i'm

2883
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real jimmy church going to take a quick

2884
02:02:20,580 --> 02:02:19,920
break more with scott when we come back

2885
02:02:30,950 --> 02:02:20,590
stay with

2886
02:02:32,229 --> 02:02:30,960
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you want to know a secret i love ponies

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why fade to black

2973
02:06:51,990 --> 02:06:49,430
this is fade to black with jimmy church

2974
02:06:56,640 --> 02:06:52,000
on the game changer radio network and

2975
02:07:11,270 --> 02:06:56,650
kgra the global radio alliance

2976
02:07:14,709 --> 02:07:12,950
welcome back fade to block i am your

2977
02:07:17,189 --> 02:07:14,719
host jimmy church tonight scott walter

2978
02:07:18,950 --> 02:07:17,199
is with us

2979
02:07:20,310 --> 02:07:18,960
we've done a little bit of everything

2980
02:07:22,390 --> 02:07:20,320
tonight

2981
02:07:24,310 --> 02:07:22,400
but i'm going to jump right into scott's

2982
02:07:27,430 --> 02:07:24,320
wheelhouse and one of my favorite

2983
02:07:30,550 --> 02:07:27,440
subjects which is the knights templar

2984
02:07:32,149 --> 02:07:30,560
and i'm gonna start off here though uh

2985
02:07:33,910 --> 02:07:32,159
with you scott

2986
02:07:35,270 --> 02:07:33,920
and say

2987
02:07:38,069 --> 02:07:35,280
this

2988
02:07:41,589 --> 02:07:38,079
when is history

2989
02:07:44,790 --> 02:07:41,599
going to wake up and look at the

2990
02:07:45,750 --> 02:07:44,800
mountains of evidence that is all around

2991
02:07:47,589 --> 02:07:45,760
the world

2992
02:07:51,510 --> 02:07:47,599
about the knights templar

2993
02:07:54,629 --> 02:07:51,520
and and and start to recognize uh what

2994
02:07:56,790 --> 02:07:54,639
has been going on why the suppression

2995
02:07:58,709 --> 02:07:56,800
what's the big deal

2996
02:08:01,669 --> 02:07:58,719
well we've already talked about it jim

2997
02:08:04,709 --> 02:08:01,679
um the big suppression is

2998
02:08:05,910 --> 02:08:04,719
largely due to the church there um there

2999
02:08:08,069 --> 02:08:05,920
are some other

3000
02:08:09,109 --> 02:08:08,079
powers that be

3001
02:08:11,350 --> 02:08:09,119
that are

3002
02:08:13,750 --> 02:08:11,360
impacting

3003
02:08:14,550 --> 02:08:13,760
the world that we live in

3004
02:08:16,390 --> 02:08:14,560
but

3005
02:08:18,550 --> 02:08:16,400
you know before before we touch on the

3006
02:08:21,270 --> 02:08:18,560
templars gym

3007
02:08:23,270 --> 02:08:21,280
i need to ask you a question this is a

3008
02:08:25,669 --> 02:08:23,280
hypothetical we're going back here we go

3009
02:08:28,950 --> 02:08:25,679
number two here it goes this is number

3010
02:08:31,430 --> 02:08:28,960
two number two let me ask you a question

3011
02:08:35,990 --> 02:08:31,440
let's say

3012
02:08:38,629 --> 02:08:36,000
you were contacted by some people

3013
02:08:40,790 --> 02:08:38,639
you got to know

3014
02:08:41,830 --> 02:08:40,800
that were cool people

3015
02:08:44,550 --> 02:08:41,840
um

3016
02:08:48,709 --> 02:08:46,709
warm friendly

3017
02:08:51,030 --> 02:08:48,719
very intelligent

3018
02:08:52,870 --> 02:08:51,040
and they told you that they were able to

3019
02:08:55,510 --> 02:08:52,880
communicate

3020
02:08:56,550 --> 02:08:55,520
with extraterrestrials that they could

3021
02:08:58,069 --> 02:08:56,560
get

3022
02:09:00,790 --> 02:08:58,079
guidance

3023
02:09:02,390 --> 02:09:00,800
that you could have a direct

3024
02:09:03,510 --> 02:09:02,400
conduit

3025
02:09:07,990 --> 02:09:03,520
to

3026
02:09:12,790 --> 02:09:09,109
would you

3027
02:09:15,189 --> 02:09:12,800
people

3028
02:09:18,870 --> 02:09:15,199
and secondly would you talk about it on

3029
02:09:22,390 --> 02:09:20,069
wow

3030
02:09:24,390 --> 02:09:22,400
uh

3031
02:09:25,830 --> 02:09:24,400
okay well the short answer is yes that

3032
02:09:30,830 --> 02:09:25,840
has happened

3033
02:09:32,870 --> 02:09:30,840
uh but the the the long answer is

3034
02:09:35,589 --> 02:09:32,880
um you would have to go through a

3035
02:09:37,589 --> 02:09:35,599
stringent vetting process just like

3036
02:09:39,430 --> 02:09:37,599
anything else which is difficult to do

3037
02:09:42,950 --> 02:09:39,440
when you're dealing with

3038
02:09:45,830 --> 02:09:42,960
stuff that is sometimes unvettable right

3039
02:09:47,109 --> 02:09:45,840
okay so you have that that problem um

3040
02:09:50,229 --> 02:09:47,119
out of the gate

3041
02:09:52,069 --> 02:09:50,239
but let's say and i'm going to get back

3042
02:09:53,350 --> 02:09:52,079
to you as quick as i can

3043
02:09:54,790 --> 02:09:53,360
but let's say everything vets

3044
02:09:57,109 --> 02:09:54,800
everything's cool everything you know

3045
02:09:59,750 --> 02:09:57,119
and this moment has arrived

3046
02:10:01,990 --> 02:09:59,760
do i do it do i talk about it absolutely

3047
02:10:04,870 --> 02:10:02,000
and i have done it before

3048
02:10:08,229 --> 02:10:04,880
and i will do it again if the situation

3049
02:10:11,189 --> 02:10:08,239
is the correct one i have absolutely no

3050
02:10:12,069 --> 02:10:11,199
problems with it i will fight the man

3051
02:10:14,310 --> 02:10:12,079
yes

3052
02:10:16,950 --> 02:10:14,320
okay well i i knew what the answer to

3053
02:10:18,629 --> 02:10:16,960
that question was and you're absolutely

3054
02:10:19,669 --> 02:10:18,639
right that the vetting process is

3055
02:10:23,109 --> 02:10:19,679
critical

3056
02:10:25,669 --> 02:10:23,119
and let's just say you ever come across

3057
02:10:29,030 --> 02:10:25,679
that situation again

3058
02:10:31,830 --> 02:10:29,040
or if i have had that experience or if i

3059
02:10:34,709 --> 02:10:31,840
ever have that experience

3060
02:10:37,750 --> 02:10:34,719
the vetting process could

3061
02:10:40,950 --> 02:10:37,760
go this way

3062
02:10:43,270 --> 02:10:40,960
if they truly have the the powers that

3063
02:10:46,069 --> 02:10:43,280
they purport to have

3064
02:10:47,270 --> 02:10:46,079
one way that i would suggest is to ask

3065
02:10:48,310 --> 02:10:47,280
questions

3066
02:10:50,709 --> 02:10:48,320
about

3067
02:10:53,990 --> 02:10:50,719
things that have happened

3068
02:10:55,589 --> 02:10:54,000
that only you know about to see if they

3069
02:10:56,550 --> 02:10:55,599
could answer those questions that's

3070
02:10:59,189 --> 02:10:56,560
right

3071
02:11:00,870 --> 02:10:59,199
or ask questions about things that

3072
02:11:03,990 --> 02:11:00,880
will happen

3073
02:11:06,709 --> 02:11:04,000
in a questioning way if i do this is

3074
02:11:08,950 --> 02:11:06,719
that the smart move could this happen

3075
02:11:11,109 --> 02:11:08,960
could that happen that's that's the way

3076
02:11:19,910 --> 02:11:11,119
i

3077
02:11:22,229 --> 02:11:19,920
you on the spot for a reason

3078
02:11:24,390 --> 02:11:22,239
and that that's that's something that

3079
02:11:26,310 --> 02:11:24,400
we'll talk about down the road how about

3080
02:11:28,870 --> 02:11:26,320
that sure sure

3081
02:11:30,629 --> 02:11:28,880
um but there's a there's

3082
02:11:31,910 --> 02:11:30,639
there's another piece to this though

3083
02:11:33,750 --> 02:11:31,920
scott

3084
02:11:35,589 --> 02:11:33,760
you have um

3085
02:11:37,830 --> 02:11:35,599
uh you have

3086
02:11:39,589 --> 02:11:37,840
maps you have seen maps you've seen

3087
02:11:41,750 --> 02:11:39,599
books you've seen documentation you've

3088
02:11:43,350 --> 02:11:41,760
got letters you've seen letters

3089
02:11:44,870 --> 02:11:43,360
you've written about this you've done

3090
02:11:47,990 --> 02:11:44,880
shows about this

3091
02:11:48,870 --> 02:11:48,000
and scott you're not the only one

3092
02:11:55,669 --> 02:11:48,880
this

3093
02:11:58,069 --> 02:11:55,679
it's a it's a global thing and and the

3094
02:12:00,870 --> 02:11:58,079
amount of stuff that you have seen

3095
02:12:02,790 --> 02:12:00,880
just imagine what you haven't seen

3096
02:12:04,550 --> 02:12:02,800
and and what is out there

3097
02:12:07,189 --> 02:12:04,560
um i i

3098
02:12:08,069 --> 02:12:07,199
for me personally i just don't get it

3099
02:12:10,310 --> 02:12:08,079
where

3100
02:12:13,750 --> 02:12:10,320
the history is there

3101
02:12:17,030 --> 02:12:13,760
the evidence is there but uh

3102
02:12:19,350 --> 02:12:17,040
vatican maybe is is a big deal and a big

3103
02:12:21,910 --> 02:12:19,360
part of this but there's another part

3104
02:12:22,950 --> 02:12:21,920
where the media doesn't want to you know

3105
02:12:29,750 --> 02:12:22,960
the the

3106
02:12:31,510 --> 02:12:29,760
don't want to the smithsonian doesn't

3107
02:12:34,069 --> 02:12:31,520
want to get them you know it's like it

3108
02:12:36,550 --> 02:12:34,079
comes at you from all direction and and

3109
02:12:38,470 --> 02:12:36,560
i don't get it it seems like we've got

3110
02:12:39,430 --> 02:12:38,480
an incredible story

3111
02:12:41,510 --> 02:12:39,440
um

3112
02:12:43,589 --> 02:12:41,520
a a great history

3113
02:12:46,069 --> 02:12:43,599
let's let's talk about it and let's try

3114
02:12:48,270 --> 02:12:46,079
to figure things out i i don't i i just

3115
02:12:52,229 --> 02:12:48,280
don't understand it's one of the most

3116
02:12:54,870 --> 02:12:52,239
incredible stories ever yes absolutely

3117
02:12:57,109 --> 02:12:54,880
yeah well you know jim this is this is

3118
02:12:58,069 --> 02:12:57,119
the the the big conundrum that we have

3119
02:13:00,870 --> 02:12:58,079
here

3120
02:13:03,430 --> 02:13:00,880
that i've been dealing with for for 20

3121
02:13:04,950 --> 02:13:03,440
years um why aren't more people

3122
02:13:07,270 --> 02:13:04,960
interested in this

3123
02:13:09,109 --> 02:13:07,280
and how do we get this message out there

3124
02:13:09,910 --> 02:13:09,119
when it seems like we have

3125
02:13:12,470 --> 02:13:09,920
uh

3126
02:13:14,709 --> 02:13:12,480
forces out there big forces

3127
02:13:16,470 --> 02:13:14,719
powerful forces that that don't want

3128
02:13:18,870 --> 02:13:16,480
this to come out

3129
02:13:21,270 --> 02:13:18,880
and i guess i decided a long time ago

3130
02:13:23,830 --> 02:13:21,280
first and foremost um i've had it with

3131
02:13:25,350 --> 02:13:23,840
the academics um

3132
02:13:27,750 --> 02:13:25,360
and when it comes to things like the

3133
02:13:29,750 --> 02:13:27,760
runestone the newport tower and all that

3134
02:13:31,669 --> 02:13:29,760
these people

3135
02:13:34,229 --> 02:13:31,679
i i mean i've had these frustrating

3136
02:13:35,910 --> 02:13:34,239
discussions with them because they've

3137
02:13:38,629 --> 02:13:35,920
accused me of not

3138
02:13:40,790 --> 02:13:38,639
you know following scientific method and

3139
02:13:43,189 --> 02:13:40,800
i just excuse me

3140
02:13:45,430 --> 02:13:43,199
i've run a materials forensic lab i'm a

3141
02:13:46,709 --> 02:13:45,440
licensed professional i mean give me a

3142
02:13:47,510 --> 02:13:46,719
break right

3143
02:13:49,990 --> 02:13:47,520
and

3144
02:13:52,790 --> 02:13:50,000
but yet this is what i get

3145
02:13:54,870 --> 02:13:52,800
and you know i talked to them about well

3146
02:13:56,629 --> 02:13:54,880
wait a minute here

3147
02:13:58,470 --> 02:13:56,639
and and i i try to have these

3148
02:13:59,669 --> 02:13:58,480
discussions let's let's look at the

3149
02:14:01,430 --> 02:13:59,679
facts here

3150
02:14:04,470 --> 02:14:01,440
and

3151
02:14:05,830 --> 02:14:04,480
it it just doesn't go anywhere because

3152
02:14:07,589 --> 02:14:05,840
one of the things that frustrates the

3153
02:14:10,069 --> 02:14:07,599
hell out of me is they

3154
02:14:14,069 --> 02:14:10,079
refuse to understand

3155
02:14:16,310 --> 02:14:14,079
that if you don't know what something is

3156
02:14:19,270 --> 02:14:16,320
it's okay to say

3157
02:14:21,669 --> 02:14:19,280
i don't know i need more information

3158
02:14:23,750 --> 02:14:21,679
there isn't enough evidence to convince

3159
02:14:26,229 --> 02:14:23,760
me one way or the other that's okay i've

3160
02:14:27,510 --> 02:14:26,239
done it myself right maybe i'll call a

3161
02:14:29,109 --> 02:14:27,520
customer and say you know what this

3162
02:14:31,270 --> 02:14:29,119
concrete sample

3163
02:14:34,069 --> 02:14:31,280
can you take one from this spot and and

3164
02:14:36,229 --> 02:14:34,079
so on and then when you do that

3165
02:14:39,510 --> 02:14:36,239
let's say new evidence comes in and

3166
02:14:41,669 --> 02:14:39,520
there is a boatload of new evidence for

3167
02:14:44,069 --> 02:14:41,679
example on the runestone in multiple

3168
02:14:47,990 --> 02:14:44,079
disciplines all converging at the same

3169
02:14:49,510 --> 02:14:48,000
place but when new evidence comes in

3170
02:14:52,390 --> 02:14:49,520
that demands

3171
02:14:54,229 --> 02:14:52,400
a different conclusion

3172
02:14:56,310 --> 02:14:54,239
what many of these academics don't

3173
02:14:57,510 --> 02:14:56,320
understand is that when that evidence

3174
02:14:59,830 --> 02:14:57,520
comes in

3175
02:15:01,589 --> 02:14:59,840
you go where the evidence takes you

3176
02:15:03,910 --> 02:15:01,599
you don't sit there and stamp your feet

3177
02:15:06,229 --> 02:15:03,920
and you know just resist it and it

3178
02:15:08,870 --> 02:15:06,239
doesn't mean that if you do change your

3179
02:15:11,430 --> 02:15:08,880
mind based on this new evidence that

3180
02:15:13,990 --> 02:15:11,440
you're stupid in fact it means you're

3181
02:15:16,470 --> 02:15:14,000
smart because that's what a true

3182
02:15:18,470 --> 02:15:16,480
scientist does and because at the end of

3183
02:15:21,350 --> 02:15:18,480
the day jimmy and this is the final

3184
02:15:23,510 --> 02:15:21,360
point that i think you'll get

3185
02:15:25,430 --> 02:15:23,520
the truth is not about

3186
02:15:29,350 --> 02:15:25,440
you being right

3187
02:15:32,470 --> 02:15:29,360
it's about getting the right answer

3188
02:15:35,189 --> 02:15:32,480
too much of this problem is what i call

3189
02:15:37,510 --> 02:15:35,199
problems of the human condition

3190
02:15:40,229 --> 02:15:37,520
and that's that's just the nature of

3191
02:15:42,149 --> 02:15:40,239
human beings but if we're going to talk

3192
02:15:44,550 --> 02:15:42,159
about science then let's do the damn

3193
02:15:46,310 --> 02:15:44,560
science follow the evidence where it

3194
02:15:48,470 --> 02:15:46,320
goes and don't worry about the

3195
02:15:50,709 --> 02:15:48,480
consequences if you got to rewrite the

3196
02:15:52,470 --> 02:15:50,719
damn history books then rewrite them

3197
02:15:55,750 --> 02:15:52,480
what's the problem

3198
02:15:58,629 --> 02:15:55,760
right when we look at uh

3199
02:16:00,870 --> 02:15:58,639
something as simple as the kensington

3200
02:16:03,270 --> 02:16:00,880
ruinstone

3201
02:16:04,870 --> 02:16:03,280
i remember i don't know if we did this

3202
02:16:06,870 --> 02:16:04,880
in a private conversation or we talked

3203
02:16:07,830 --> 02:16:06,880
about it on the air it's been so long

3204
02:16:13,109 --> 02:16:07,840
but

3205
02:16:16,629 --> 02:16:13,119
that in of itself if it was

3206
02:16:19,430 --> 02:16:16,639
something as simple as a a

3207
02:16:21,910 --> 02:16:19,440
a landmarker right

3208
02:16:23,030 --> 02:16:21,920
something as simple as that

3209
02:16:25,030 --> 02:16:23,040
then

3210
02:16:27,189 --> 02:16:25,040
is it possible

3211
02:16:28,390 --> 02:16:27,199
that we should be calling the united

3212
02:16:32,070 --> 02:16:28,400
states

3213
02:16:35,750 --> 02:16:32,080
new scandinavia right i mean is there

3214
02:16:39,349 --> 02:16:35,760
some political interest involved in that

3215
02:16:41,110 --> 02:16:39,359
that would be as dramatic as as that

3216
02:16:43,030 --> 02:16:41,120
where this is going to go to the hague

3217
02:16:44,549 --> 02:16:43,040
we're going to do a world there's going

3218
02:16:47,270 --> 02:16:44,559
to be a right

3219
02:16:48,709 --> 02:16:47,280
no that we were there first and and we

3220
02:16:51,190 --> 02:16:48,719
claimed that

3221
02:16:53,750 --> 02:16:51,200
and and and and now we need to talk

3222
02:16:56,709 --> 02:16:53,760
about it but yeah

3223
02:16:59,509 --> 02:16:56,719
you know jim you are 100 right and in

3224
02:17:02,629 --> 02:16:59,519
fact about two years ago i had a guy

3225
02:17:05,750 --> 02:17:02,639
call me in canada who was a lawyer who

3226
02:17:07,830 --> 02:17:05,760
wanted to file a lawsuit in an

3227
02:17:09,190 --> 02:17:07,840
international court i'm not making this

3228
02:17:11,669 --> 02:17:09,200
up right

3229
02:17:13,190 --> 02:17:11,679
on behalf of the kensington runestone

3230
02:17:16,469 --> 02:17:13,200
saying that hey

3231
02:17:17,270 --> 02:17:16,479
this this claim that we you know this

3232
02:17:19,589 --> 02:17:17,280
this

3233
02:17:22,070 --> 02:17:19,599
nation that we have now

3234
02:17:24,309 --> 02:17:22,080
doesn't belong to you right right to

3235
02:17:26,070 --> 02:17:24,319
interests over in europe and i don't

3236
02:17:28,709 --> 02:17:26,080
remember the details of the argument

3237
02:17:30,709 --> 02:17:28,719
that he made but it actually did make

3238
02:17:32,709 --> 02:17:30,719
some sense now i wasn't ready to get

3239
02:17:34,790 --> 02:17:32,719
involved in something like that but you

3240
02:17:35,910 --> 02:17:34,800
asked a really really good question

3241
02:17:38,950 --> 02:17:35,920
because

3242
02:17:40,870 --> 02:17:38,960
the natives didn't carve that so the

3243
02:17:42,950 --> 02:17:40,880
native americans

3244
02:17:45,910 --> 02:17:42,960
didn't claim the land somebody from a

3245
02:17:47,669 --> 02:17:45,920
different country did but but here's the

3246
02:17:49,910 --> 02:17:47,679
truth of the matter

3247
02:17:51,110 --> 02:17:49,920
the templars didn't come from one

3248
02:17:54,070 --> 02:17:51,120
country

3249
02:17:56,950 --> 02:17:54,080
the templars just like freemasonry we

3250
02:17:58,790 --> 02:17:56,960
welcome people from all walks of life

3251
02:17:59,990 --> 02:17:58,800
from all nationalities from all

3252
02:18:02,150 --> 02:18:00,000
religions

3253
02:18:03,349 --> 02:18:02,160
uh whatever right so

3254
02:18:05,110 --> 02:18:03,359
[Music]

3255
02:18:07,030 --> 02:18:05,120
the templars

3256
02:18:08,790 --> 02:18:07,040
operated the same way you took an

3257
02:18:10,629 --> 02:18:08,800
obligation that you were going to

3258
02:18:12,549 --> 02:18:10,639
conduct yourself a certain way with

3259
02:18:14,549 --> 02:18:12,559
certain ethics or morals whatever they

3260
02:18:17,429 --> 02:18:14,559
didn't care if you were native american

3261
02:18:20,309 --> 02:18:17,439
african-american asian they didn't care

3262
02:18:22,950 --> 02:18:20,319
we don't care and so

3263
02:18:25,190 --> 02:18:22,960
now you got sort of a different argument

3264
02:18:27,589 --> 02:18:25,200
you can't really go to one country now

3265
02:18:28,629 --> 02:18:27,599
right because you're talking about

3266
02:18:31,349 --> 02:18:28,639
people

3267
02:18:34,469 --> 02:18:31,359
of all walks of life of all races of all

3268
02:18:35,429 --> 02:18:34,479
nationalities so now maybe we come back

3269
02:18:37,589 --> 02:18:35,439
and

3270
02:18:39,589 --> 02:18:37,599
maybe this is that

3271
02:18:41,990 --> 02:18:39,599
free templar state

3272
02:18:42,790 --> 02:18:42,000
as it states in the journals that we

3273
02:18:43,750 --> 02:18:42,800
have

3274
02:18:45,910 --> 02:18:43,760
and

3275
02:18:48,549 --> 02:18:45,920
this is a place where people could come

3276
02:18:51,030 --> 02:18:48,559
practice whatever religion they wanted

3277
02:18:53,429 --> 02:18:51,040
and they were free from the tyranny of

3278
02:18:55,990 --> 02:18:53,439
the monarchs of europe i think a lot of

3279
02:18:59,669 --> 02:18:56,000
people especially today forget that we

3280
02:19:01,669 --> 02:18:59,679
fought a revolution against a dictator

3281
02:19:03,589 --> 02:19:01,679
and we got people in this nation that

3282
02:19:05,110 --> 02:19:03,599
seem to think that we want to go back to

3283
02:19:07,750 --> 02:19:05,120
something like that

3284
02:19:10,389 --> 02:19:07,760
i mean what that tells me

3285
02:19:12,309 --> 02:19:10,399
is not that these people are stupid but

3286
02:19:15,429 --> 02:19:12,319
maybe they just don't know the full

3287
02:19:16,709 --> 02:19:15,439
story and the history of how this nation

3288
02:19:19,750 --> 02:19:16,719
was founded

3289
02:19:21,750 --> 02:19:19,760
and you know getting to your uh your

3290
02:19:23,429 --> 02:19:21,760
your intro here about what are we

3291
02:19:25,669 --> 02:19:23,439
working on now with regard to the

3292
02:19:27,030 --> 02:19:25,679
templars i'm going to just show you

3293
02:19:28,629 --> 02:19:27,040
something jimmy you're going to have to

3294
02:19:31,270 --> 02:19:28,639
describe it to your audience i'm going

3295
02:19:35,270 --> 02:19:31,280
to put you on the spot

3296
02:19:36,870 --> 02:19:35,280
this is a brand new page from a document

3297
02:19:38,870 --> 02:19:36,880
we just got

3298
02:19:41,270 --> 02:19:38,880
now look at that

3299
02:19:43,589 --> 02:19:41,280
that's an island

3300
02:19:46,070 --> 02:19:43,599
is that all is that oak island

3301
02:19:48,549 --> 02:19:46,080
nope but let me show you another picture

3302
02:19:53,830 --> 02:19:48,559
okay hold on oh

3303
02:19:58,389 --> 02:19:56,150
that's fake that's straight but there's

3304
02:19:59,990 --> 02:19:58,399
no way that that's real

3305
02:20:03,030 --> 02:20:00,000
is that real

3306
02:20:05,110 --> 02:20:03,040
dude this is brand new brand new

3307
02:20:08,550 --> 02:20:05,120
uh okay all right hold it back up okay

3308
02:20:12,469 --> 02:20:08,560
so what scott just showed me an old

3309
02:20:16,150 --> 02:20:12,479
uh hand-drawn map of an island wait i

3310
02:20:20,550 --> 02:20:18,469
i swear to god i was getting ready i was

3311
02:20:22,389 --> 02:20:20,560
gonna trust you i was gonna do a screen

3312
02:20:24,550 --> 02:20:22,399
grab let me hit record

3313
02:20:27,910 --> 02:20:24,560
oh he already took it off okay now but

3314
02:20:30,710 --> 02:20:27,920
but anyway um so and there's an x on the

3315
02:20:32,389 --> 02:20:30,720
island by the way there's two yes there

3316
02:20:34,309 --> 02:20:32,399
is there's two

3317
02:20:36,230 --> 02:20:34,319
lines on the bottom of the island like

3318
02:20:39,110 --> 02:20:36,240
the roman numeral two

3319
02:20:41,670 --> 02:20:39,120
yes ah see scott see i'm pretty good

3320
02:20:43,429 --> 02:20:41,680
aren't i you are very good now i'm

3321
02:20:45,750 --> 02:20:43,439
looking at

3322
02:20:48,150 --> 02:20:45,760
agree that those things are probably a

3323
02:20:50,870 --> 02:20:48,160
match uh 100

3324
02:20:51,990 --> 02:20:50,880
absolutely and again scott too good to

3325
02:20:54,630 --> 02:20:52,000
be true

3326
02:20:57,270 --> 02:20:54,640
okay now not it's not too good to be

3327
02:21:00,309 --> 02:20:57,280
true it's a hundred percent true okay so

3328
02:21:01,910 --> 02:21:00,319
what's the age of the hand-drawn map

3329
02:21:04,389 --> 02:21:01,920
what what are we talking about there

3330
02:21:07,590 --> 02:21:04,399
this piece of paper now look closely at

3331
02:21:09,830 --> 02:21:07,600
the paper can you see

3332
02:21:12,070 --> 02:21:09,840
the lineation yes i can't yeah two

3333
02:21:14,950 --> 02:21:12,080
directions uh-huh

3334
02:21:17,030 --> 02:21:14,960
this this uh document

3335
02:21:19,190 --> 02:21:17,040
was

3336
02:21:21,990 --> 02:21:19,200
written down in

3337
02:21:25,670 --> 02:21:22,000
1885

3338
02:21:27,670 --> 02:21:25,680
and basically i can tell you the context

3339
02:21:28,550 --> 02:21:27,680
of what this is

3340
02:21:30,710 --> 02:21:28,560
um

3341
02:21:33,270 --> 02:21:30,720
now can you tell me what part of the

3342
02:21:37,429 --> 02:21:33,280
world that's in

3343
02:21:38,550 --> 02:21:37,439
uh right now it is in afghanistan

3344
02:21:41,030 --> 02:21:38,560
what

3345
02:21:42,710 --> 02:21:41,040
okay continue continuing all right so

3346
02:21:43,990 --> 02:21:42,720
let me just tell you briefly what the

3347
02:21:47,910 --> 02:21:44,000
story is

3348
02:21:49,270 --> 02:21:47,920
now we have a set of documents

3349
02:21:51,510 --> 02:21:49,280
journals

3350
02:21:53,389 --> 02:21:51,520
that basically

3351
02:21:55,670 --> 02:21:53,399
there's over

3352
02:21:58,469 --> 02:21:55,680
160 pages

3353
02:22:01,030 --> 02:21:58,479
there are over 300 names there's over

3354
02:22:03,590 --> 02:22:01,040
400 years of material

3355
02:22:06,469 --> 02:22:03,600
uh presented

3356
02:22:09,830 --> 02:22:06,479
these journals were passed down

3357
02:22:12,469 --> 02:22:09,840
father to son through two families five

3358
02:22:15,030 --> 02:22:12,479
generations of sinclairs

3359
02:22:18,389 --> 02:22:15,040
against the sinclairs okay

3360
02:22:21,590 --> 02:22:18,399
sinclairs and ten generations of a

3361
02:22:24,150 --> 02:22:21,600
family by the name of weebs

3362
02:22:26,550 --> 02:22:24,160
it was a father to son tradition

3363
02:22:28,870 --> 02:22:26,560
and sinclair brought these treasures

3364
02:22:32,150 --> 02:22:28,880
over to north america

3365
02:22:34,469 --> 02:22:32,160
buried them in multiple places

3366
02:22:37,429 --> 02:22:34,479
we thought we knew what the number of

3367
02:22:39,590 --> 02:22:37,439
locations was we now realize with this

3368
02:22:40,710 --> 02:22:39,600
new material that it was way more than

3369
02:22:44,870 --> 02:22:40,720
we thought

3370
02:22:46,150 --> 02:22:44,880
including that island i just showed you

3371
02:22:49,110 --> 02:22:46,160
and

3372
02:22:51,910 --> 02:22:49,120
then the next seceding generations

3373
02:22:53,990 --> 02:22:51,920
had to follow this tradition of visiting

3374
02:22:56,950 --> 02:22:54,000
the western lands to check on those

3375
02:22:58,950 --> 02:22:56,960
treasures you visited the western lands

3376
02:23:01,510 --> 02:22:58,960
twice in your lifetime once with your

3377
02:23:03,910 --> 02:23:01,520
father and once with your son

3378
02:23:07,270 --> 02:23:03,920
and the other part of this that is so

3379
02:23:11,750 --> 02:23:07,280
fantastic is that these people

3380
02:23:14,230 --> 02:23:13,190
bonded

3381
02:23:17,349 --> 02:23:14,240
and

3382
02:23:19,910 --> 02:23:17,359
developed a deep spiritual bond with the

3383
02:23:21,429 --> 02:23:19,920
indigenous people of this continent

3384
02:23:23,030 --> 02:23:21,439
they bonded through

3385
02:23:25,110 --> 02:23:23,040
ritual

3386
02:23:26,630 --> 02:23:25,120
they practice freemasonry just like the

3387
02:23:29,190 --> 02:23:26,640
templars did a lot of people don't know

3388
02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:29,200
that they do to this day

3389
02:23:37,429 --> 02:23:31,120
they also

3390
02:23:42,309 --> 02:23:39,429
the fact of the matter is the templars

3391
02:23:43,349 --> 02:23:42,319
carried the sacred bloodline in their

3392
02:23:45,670 --> 02:23:43,359
veins

3393
02:23:48,790 --> 02:23:45,680
and they put it into the natives through

3394
02:23:49,910 --> 02:23:48,800
intermarriage to protect it over here

3395
02:23:51,990 --> 02:23:49,920
now

3396
02:23:53,750 --> 02:23:52,000
the jesuits get involved the church gets

3397
02:23:55,270 --> 02:23:53,760
involved there was genocide that

3398
02:23:55,990 --> 02:23:55,280
happened with the natives that we all

3399
02:23:57,510 --> 02:23:56,000
know

3400
02:24:00,710 --> 02:23:57,520
after

3401
02:24:02,870 --> 02:24:00,720
we started the colonies here and a lot

3402
02:24:04,309 --> 02:24:02,880
of people don't realize this but one of

3403
02:24:07,429 --> 02:24:04,319
the reasons why

3404
02:24:09,510 --> 02:24:07,439
the uh jesuits were so interested in

3405
02:24:11,030 --> 02:24:09,520
eliminating the natives was to get rid

3406
02:24:14,389 --> 02:24:11,040
of the witnesses

3407
02:24:16,469 --> 02:24:14,399
and this sacred bloodline now you we've

3408
02:24:17,429 --> 02:24:16,479
all read the stories recently about

3409
02:24:20,070 --> 02:24:17,439
these

3410
02:24:22,230 --> 02:24:20,080
church-run schools where the natives and

3411
02:24:25,349 --> 02:24:22,240
they found mass graves with children

3412
02:24:27,830 --> 02:24:25,359
buried in them up in canada yes right

3413
02:24:29,830 --> 02:24:27,840
well it was the same thing here and this

3414
02:24:32,550 --> 02:24:29,840
is going to come out down here in the

3415
02:24:34,790 --> 02:24:32,560
future you wait you remember i told you

3416
02:24:37,030 --> 02:24:34,800
here you're going to hear about this but

3417
02:24:38,630 --> 02:24:37,040
the point is is that there's a larger

3418
02:24:40,630 --> 02:24:38,640
story here

3419
02:24:42,150 --> 02:24:40,640
and believe it or not jimmy

3420
02:24:45,429 --> 02:24:42,160
i'm going to tell you right now for the

3421
02:24:49,830 --> 02:24:45,439
first time on this show

3422
02:24:55,750 --> 02:24:51,910
the templar story

3423
02:24:58,230 --> 02:24:55,760
the venus families from which they came

3424
02:25:04,950 --> 02:24:58,240
and the extraterrestrial

3425
02:25:10,469 --> 02:25:07,750
they're going to well you know

3426
02:25:13,270 --> 02:25:10,479
everything is connected first off right

3427
02:25:15,750 --> 02:25:13,280
yes everything is connected yes

3428
02:25:17,910 --> 02:25:15,760
everything is connected but uh you know

3429
02:25:20,550 --> 02:25:17,920
that there are those out there

3430
02:25:23,270 --> 02:25:20,560
that are gonna go okay now scott is

3431
02:25:25,910 --> 02:25:23,280
connecting the templars to the ufo the

3432
02:25:27,030 --> 02:25:25,920
et's and that's going to be his next

3433
02:25:28,630 --> 02:25:27,040
book

3434
02:25:31,190 --> 02:25:28,640
um

3435
02:25:33,270 --> 02:25:31,200
but everything is connected

3436
02:25:35,750 --> 02:25:33,280
let's let's let's back up for a second

3437
02:25:39,190 --> 02:25:35,760
oh i want to go back to this map also

3438
02:25:41,750 --> 02:25:39,200
let me look at my clock okay

3439
02:25:43,750 --> 02:25:41,760
you held up to the camera before the

3440
02:25:47,750 --> 02:25:43,760
show nobody saw this

3441
02:25:54,790 --> 02:25:51,750
purse it's paper no with with uh no no

3442
02:25:55,830 --> 02:25:54,800
with uh letters on it

3443
02:25:59,990 --> 02:25:55,840
initials

3444
02:26:02,469 --> 02:26:00,000
no you held up oh oh oh oh oh oh this

3445
02:26:05,349 --> 02:26:02,479
yeah that that oh i thought it was real

3446
02:26:08,150 --> 02:26:05,359
okay it is real well yeah but no that's

3447
02:26:09,990 --> 02:26:08,160
a photograph but i thought

3448
02:26:13,349 --> 02:26:10,000
you did it so quick i thought it was the

3449
02:26:16,389 --> 02:26:13,359
actual oh oh no well we don't have this

3450
02:26:18,710 --> 02:26:16,399
one yet but this

3451
02:26:22,230 --> 02:26:18,720
was inside of this okay

3452
02:26:24,950 --> 02:26:22,240
and whose initials are those

3453
02:26:27,190 --> 02:26:24,960
uh a guy by the name of it's on the

3454
02:26:30,070 --> 02:26:27,200
first page can you grab it for me jan

3455
02:26:34,469 --> 02:26:30,080
flip it to the very first page

3456
02:26:35,750 --> 02:26:34,479
oh john james alston weeds okay james

3457
02:26:40,150 --> 02:26:35,760
also weebs

3458
02:26:41,670 --> 02:26:40,160
uh jaw is also john anthony west right

3459
02:26:43,030 --> 02:26:41,680
and i was like man maybe it's john

3460
02:26:45,270 --> 02:26:43,040
anthony

3461
02:26:47,990 --> 02:26:45,280
yeah yeah yeah totally totally totally

3462
02:26:49,910 --> 02:26:48,000
okay so the map was in that leather

3463
02:26:51,830 --> 02:26:49,920
satchel

3464
02:26:54,950 --> 02:26:51,840
all the maps were

3465
02:26:55,830 --> 02:26:54,960
but so there's one okay and

3466
02:27:01,469 --> 02:26:55,840
and

3467
02:27:07,670 --> 02:27:05,830
1354 april 18 1354 is that what i see

3468
02:27:11,349 --> 02:27:07,680
there

3469
02:27:14,230 --> 02:27:11,359
1353 oh it's a journal

3470
02:27:16,790 --> 02:27:14,240
exactly oh

3471
02:27:19,910 --> 02:27:16,800
yes yes yes

3472
02:27:22,630 --> 02:27:19,920
so remember i i told you we had

3473
02:27:24,790 --> 02:27:22,640
a set of journals i remember we did we

3474
02:27:28,469 --> 02:27:24,800
did a couple of shows on this actually

3475
02:27:31,349 --> 02:27:28,479
yes yes and this is another copy that

3476
02:27:35,110 --> 02:27:31,359
was tracked down that

3477
02:27:37,750 --> 02:27:35,120
in in we think around 1830

3478
02:27:39,429 --> 02:27:37,760
these original journals that were in the

3479
02:27:41,030 --> 02:27:39,439
weems family

3480
02:27:42,710 --> 02:27:41,040
was copied

3481
02:27:44,550 --> 02:27:42,720
and there were three copies that were

3482
02:27:47,429 --> 02:27:44,560
made we think

3483
02:27:48,309 --> 02:27:47,439
this is another copy

3484
02:27:52,070 --> 02:27:48,319
what

3485
02:27:54,309 --> 02:27:52,080
was

3486
02:27:56,230 --> 02:27:54,319
we actually had maps with the other set

3487
02:28:00,710 --> 02:27:56,240
that we already have

3488
02:28:03,990 --> 02:28:00,720
now we have another copy but it has

3489
02:28:05,830 --> 02:28:04,000
10 more maps than the other one did and

3490
02:28:08,230 --> 02:28:05,840
and there were missing pages in the

3491
02:28:10,710 --> 02:28:08,240
other journal too as well

3492
02:28:13,349 --> 02:28:10,720
yes there are some yeah and i remember

3493
02:28:15,750 --> 02:28:13,359
that okay so let me refresh uh to the

3494
02:28:17,429 --> 02:28:15,760
audience uh we you know what scott

3495
02:28:19,110 --> 02:28:17,439
you're gonna tell janet that we're going

3496
02:28:21,910 --> 02:28:19,120
into overtime we can't leave on a

3497
02:28:24,389 --> 02:28:21,920
cliffhanger like this but um let me

3498
02:28:26,469 --> 02:28:24,399
refresh with the audience uh scott and i

3499
02:28:29,270 --> 02:28:26,479
did a series of shows

3500
02:28:30,630 --> 02:28:29,280
uh a couple of years ago about the set

3501
02:28:33,670 --> 02:28:30,640
of journals

3502
02:28:35,750 --> 02:28:33,680
um and it's a very complex story it is

3503
02:28:39,030 --> 02:28:35,760
insane there's so many

3504
02:28:43,750 --> 02:28:39,040
so many people and locations uh modern

3505
02:28:46,150 --> 02:28:43,760
uh and this went back to 1968 66 68 well

3506
02:28:47,510 --> 02:28:46,160
that's now that's the cremona but but

3507
02:28:49,830 --> 02:28:47,520
hold on hold on that's something

3508
02:28:51,830 --> 02:28:49,840
separate but it is separate but it's all

3509
02:28:54,950 --> 02:28:51,840
part of the same story is what i'm

3510
02:28:59,190 --> 02:28:54,960
getting absolutely okay so it spans

3511
02:29:00,389 --> 02:28:59,200
decades and the overarching

3512
02:29:01,910 --> 02:29:00,399
uh

3513
02:29:05,349 --> 02:29:01,920
theory here

3514
02:29:08,309 --> 02:29:05,359
is that the sinclair family was coming

3515
02:29:11,510 --> 02:29:08,319
over to the united states like it was

3516
02:29:14,950 --> 02:29:11,520
nothing they were jumping in boats and

3517
02:29:16,070 --> 02:29:14,960
cruising over and hanging out and going

3518
02:29:19,429 --> 02:29:16,080
back

3519
02:29:21,030 --> 02:29:19,439
to england so in scotland so scotland

3520
02:29:23,190 --> 02:29:21,040
scotland so

3521
02:29:25,590 --> 02:29:23,200
we're gonna continue this conversation

3522
02:29:28,150 --> 02:29:25,600
because what i was just shown here by

3523
02:29:30,309 --> 02:29:28,160
scott i'm not letting this get away so

3524
02:29:32,230 --> 02:29:30,319
we will do all of that let's uh let's

3525
02:29:33,910 --> 02:29:32,240
take our break here scott and let's just

3526
02:29:37,830 --> 02:29:33,920
swing right back and pick up where we

3527
02:29:40,230 --> 02:29:37,840
are leaving off and i give thanks to

3528
02:29:42,230 --> 02:29:40,240
scott's producer janet for allowing this

3529
02:29:44,389 --> 02:29:42,240
to happen this is fade to black i'm

3530
02:29:47,110 --> 02:29:44,399
yours jimmy church we're doing overtime

3531
02:29:52,820 --> 02:29:47,120
with scott walter stay with us let's do

3532
02:30:18,710 --> 02:30:15,990
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3533
02:30:21,429 --> 02:30:18,720
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3536
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[Music]

3623
02:35:08,870 --> 02:35:07,429
welcome back fade to black i am your

3624
02:35:10,630 --> 02:35:08,880
host jimmy church scott you're having

3625
02:35:12,710 --> 02:35:10,640
too much fun man

3626
02:35:15,510 --> 02:35:12,720
so during the break

3627
02:35:19,830 --> 02:35:15,520
scott is showing me uh a series of

3628
02:35:24,790 --> 02:35:19,840
hand-drawn maps obviously uh very aged

3629
02:35:27,590 --> 02:35:24,800
and then the google equivalent of google

3630
02:35:31,110 --> 02:35:27,600
maps and satellite of of these maps and

3631
02:35:33,830 --> 02:35:31,120
this uh well a lot of islands by the way

3632
02:35:36,230 --> 02:35:33,840
uh he's having a really good time just

3633
02:35:38,550 --> 02:35:36,240
making me jealous and i know that this

3634
02:35:40,469 --> 02:35:38,560
can't be shared with the audience and

3635
02:35:43,910 --> 02:35:40,479
that part kind of sucks

3636
02:35:45,910 --> 02:35:43,920
uh but scott also enjoys uh what he is

3637
02:35:48,550 --> 02:35:45,920
doing right now with the big teaser

3638
02:35:50,710 --> 02:35:48,560
that's a that's a lot of stuff scott

3639
02:35:53,510 --> 02:35:50,720
yeah it well this is just the tip of the

3640
02:35:55,990 --> 02:35:53,520
iceberg really um

3641
02:35:59,830 --> 02:35:56,000
and it really goes to the the heart of

3642
02:36:02,230 --> 02:35:59,840
this story um of the templars and

3643
02:36:04,710 --> 02:36:02,240
bringing their treasures over and using

3644
02:36:05,590 --> 02:36:04,720
it to found this nation

3645
02:36:08,630 --> 02:36:05,600
but

3646
02:36:11,110 --> 02:36:08,640
you know that's that's that's the global

3647
02:36:13,750 --> 02:36:11,120
story the runestone is a part of it the

3648
02:36:15,750 --> 02:36:13,760
newport tower is absolutely a part of it

3649
02:36:18,630 --> 02:36:15,760
all these artifacts that we were talking

3650
02:36:21,110 --> 02:36:18,640
about are are interconnected to this

3651
02:36:22,630 --> 02:36:21,120
story but what's happening is these

3652
02:36:23,750 --> 02:36:22,640
these artifacts that we just talked

3653
02:36:25,990 --> 02:36:23,760
about

3654
02:36:27,830 --> 02:36:26,000
um that are being suppressed they're not

3655
02:36:29,750 --> 02:36:27,840
being accepted

3656
02:36:31,830 --> 02:36:29,760
um they're all part of this story

3657
02:36:34,830 --> 02:36:31,840
they've been screaming to us trying to

3658
02:36:37,429 --> 02:36:34,840
tell us what's going on and

3659
02:36:39,750 --> 02:36:37,439
um people don't listen

3660
02:36:41,349 --> 02:36:39,760
and there are the powers that be are

3661
02:36:44,469 --> 02:36:41,359
telling us hey there's nothing to see

3662
02:36:48,150 --> 02:36:44,479
here so let it go it's all a hoax well

3663
02:36:50,870 --> 02:36:48,160
that's that's [\h__\h] and um

3664
02:36:54,230 --> 02:36:50,880
now what's happened jim is we've got

3665
02:36:56,469 --> 02:36:54,240
we've got the story nailed i can't go

3666
02:36:59,590 --> 02:36:56,479
into the details now but i will tell you

3667
02:37:01,349 --> 02:36:59,600
this this is absolutely

3668
02:37:05,110 --> 02:37:01,359
the biggest story i've ever been

3669
02:37:07,750 --> 02:37:05,120
involved in next to the et thing

3670
02:37:09,349 --> 02:37:07,760
it's the most interesting it's got so

3671
02:37:10,630 --> 02:37:09,359
many different

3672
02:37:12,710 --> 02:37:10,640
pieces

3673
02:37:15,510 --> 02:37:12,720
when we bring this to the world people

3674
02:37:18,309 --> 02:37:15,520
are gonna absolutely go crazy i'm not

3675
02:37:19,190 --> 02:37:18,319
kidding you i i'm not overplaying it

3676
02:37:21,110 --> 02:37:19,200
it's

3677
02:37:23,110 --> 02:37:21,120
well i've just seen i've just seen a

3678
02:37:23,990 --> 02:37:23,120
series of maps

3679
02:37:24,790 --> 02:37:24,000
and

3680
02:37:25,670 --> 02:37:24,800
uh

3681
02:37:30,870 --> 02:37:25,680
the

3682
02:37:33,910 --> 02:37:30,880
formations

3683
02:37:36,469 --> 02:37:33,920
um okay uh i've got a bunch of questions

3684
02:37:38,710 --> 02:37:36,479
so let me let me just start with the uh

3685
02:37:40,950 --> 02:37:38,720
some some back story here

3686
02:37:43,429 --> 02:37:40,960
uh where did

3687
02:37:46,389 --> 02:37:43,439
where did you get the maps

3688
02:37:47,590 --> 02:37:46,399
these maps were inside of a a

3689
02:37:50,150 --> 02:37:47,600
journal

3690
02:37:52,710 --> 02:37:50,160
that we just got literally

3691
02:37:55,510 --> 02:37:52,720
yesterday i'm not making this up i just

3692
02:37:57,830 --> 02:37:55,520
got this yesterday we don't even have

3693
02:38:00,150 --> 02:37:57,840
everything that we're gonna have

3694
02:38:02,150 --> 02:38:00,160
but the person that shared this with us

3695
02:38:04,150 --> 02:38:02,160
is a direct descendant

3696
02:38:05,990 --> 02:38:04,160
of this family

3697
02:38:08,230 --> 02:38:06,000
uh this person is serving in our

3698
02:38:11,270 --> 02:38:08,240
military right now the reason that it's

3699
02:38:16,070 --> 02:38:11,280
taken a while for the material to get to

3700
02:38:18,950 --> 02:38:16,080
us is because right now this person is

3701
02:38:21,910 --> 02:38:18,960
a military pilot and he's he's over in

3702
02:38:23,110 --> 02:38:21,920
afghanistan of evacuating

3703
02:38:25,510 --> 02:38:23,120
um

3704
02:38:27,110 --> 02:38:25,520
american citizens people that supported

3705
02:38:30,070 --> 02:38:27,120
us during our

3706
02:38:32,469 --> 02:38:30,080
issues with afghanistan this person in

3707
02:38:34,950 --> 02:38:32,479
my mind is is a hero

3708
02:38:38,710 --> 02:38:34,960
and it shouldn't be a surprise because

3709
02:38:39,910 --> 02:38:38,720
he's connected to a lineage of of a

3710
02:38:42,710 --> 02:38:39,920
family

3711
02:38:44,389 --> 02:38:42,720
and generations of people that we are

3712
02:38:47,349 --> 02:38:44,399
going to bring to the world we're going

3713
02:38:50,710 --> 02:38:47,359
to introduce them and they are every bit

3714
02:38:53,190 --> 02:38:50,720
uh american heroes as george washington

3715
02:38:56,309 --> 02:38:53,200
thomas jefferson all these people that

3716
02:38:58,630 --> 02:38:56,319
we lionize our founding fathers they

3717
02:39:00,950 --> 02:38:58,640
didn't do the dirty work these people

3718
02:39:03,030 --> 02:39:00,960
did they need to be recognized and

3719
02:39:04,070 --> 02:39:03,040
they're going to be recognized

3720
02:39:05,429 --> 02:39:04,080
and

3721
02:39:07,670 --> 02:39:05,439
it may be

3722
02:39:09,830 --> 02:39:07,680
you know after their uh they've left

3723
02:39:11,830 --> 02:39:09,840
this earth but it doesn't matter they

3724
02:39:14,870 --> 02:39:11,840
deserve the recognition

3725
02:39:17,190 --> 02:39:14,880
and our appreciation for a job well done

3726
02:39:20,870 --> 02:39:17,200
that helped produce this nation that

3727
02:39:22,150 --> 02:39:20,880
that we all live in and love now the

3728
02:39:25,349 --> 02:39:22,160
uh

3729
02:39:26,469 --> 02:39:25,359
the islands that you were just showing

3730
02:39:28,710 --> 02:39:26,479
me

3731
02:39:30,790 --> 02:39:28,720
um are these

3732
02:39:31,990 --> 02:39:30,800
uh north american

3733
02:39:32,950 --> 02:39:32,000
yes

3734
02:39:34,710 --> 02:39:32,960
um

3735
02:39:38,230 --> 02:39:34,720
uh

3736
02:39:40,550 --> 02:39:38,240
from florida up to canada or i'm i'm

3737
02:39:43,270 --> 02:39:40,560
guessing east coast i'm going east coast

3738
02:39:46,309 --> 02:39:43,280
let's say east east coastline right east

3739
02:39:47,349 --> 02:39:46,319
coastline and and how many

3740
02:39:49,190 --> 02:39:47,359
uh

3741
02:39:51,750 --> 02:39:49,200
man that's a crazy amount that i just

3742
02:39:53,830 --> 02:39:51,760
saw how many uh

3743
02:39:57,830 --> 02:39:53,840
are there in total now i realize you got

3744
02:39:59,429 --> 02:39:57,840
these yesterday but i also saw numbers

3745
02:40:02,309 --> 02:39:59,439
on each one

3746
02:40:04,150 --> 02:40:02,319
uh with post-its so you're going through

3747
02:40:08,790 --> 02:40:04,160
this information now

3748
02:40:10,469 --> 02:40:08,800
yes um how many uh islands uh and and

3749
02:40:12,630 --> 02:40:10,479
maps are there

3750
02:40:14,309 --> 02:40:12,640
well it looks like in this journal there

3751
02:40:16,550 --> 02:40:14,319
are 15.

3752
02:40:18,830 --> 02:40:16,560
now we have some other documents we've

3753
02:40:23,349 --> 02:40:18,840
had for about five years

3754
02:40:27,030 --> 02:40:23,359
um that's connected to this particular

3755
02:40:29,990 --> 02:40:27,040
uh journal and there were five

3756
02:40:32,790 --> 02:40:30,000
and all five of the ones we already had

3757
02:40:34,870 --> 02:40:32,800
we matched up with five here that means

3758
02:40:35,830 --> 02:40:34,880
there are 10 additional

3759
02:40:38,950 --> 02:40:35,840
maps

3760
02:40:40,550 --> 02:40:38,960
and 10 locations we have found 10 of the

3761
02:40:42,389 --> 02:40:40,560
15.

3762
02:40:44,389 --> 02:40:42,399
we're still working on the other five

3763
02:40:46,070 --> 02:40:44,399
but as you can see we've made some good

3764
02:40:49,990 --> 02:40:46,080
progress yeah you have you have well

3765
02:40:52,790 --> 02:40:50,000
take me okay so how are you doing this

3766
02:40:55,510 --> 02:40:52,800
um is there information on this map

3767
02:40:58,070 --> 02:40:55,520
to point you in a geographic area

3768
02:40:59,309 --> 02:40:58,080
or are you going up the coastline on

3769
02:41:01,830 --> 02:40:59,319
google

3770
02:41:04,550 --> 02:41:01,840
painstakingly looking at every single

3771
02:41:06,870 --> 02:41:04,560
island one by one well that would take

3772
02:41:08,870 --> 02:41:06,880
forever because there are probably

3773
02:41:11,590 --> 02:41:08,880
thousands of islands if you go all the

3774
02:41:14,150 --> 02:41:11,600
way from florida up uh

3775
02:41:15,830 --> 02:41:14,160
up into canada but the truth of the

3776
02:41:17,910 --> 02:41:15,840
matter is i can't go into too many

3777
02:41:21,030 --> 02:41:17,920
specifics but i will tell you that there

3778
02:41:24,710 --> 02:41:21,040
is a specific geographic region

3779
02:41:25,670 --> 02:41:24,720
that we are looking at uh for a reason

3780
02:41:27,750 --> 02:41:25,680
and

3781
02:41:30,550 --> 02:41:27,760
we're hitting pater so far

3782
02:41:32,389 --> 02:41:30,560
we're not there yet but um

3783
02:41:33,830 --> 02:41:32,399
some of them i recognize right away

3784
02:41:35,750 --> 02:41:33,840
there's like three or four i went oh

3785
02:41:37,269 --> 02:41:35,760
that's that that's that that's that

3786
02:41:39,269 --> 02:41:37,279
because we'd already looked at them we

3787
02:41:42,150 --> 02:41:39,279
already had those maps but the others

3788
02:41:44,710 --> 02:41:42,160
like the first one i showed you

3789
02:41:46,389 --> 02:41:44,720
that one i had never seen before and i

3790
02:41:49,590 --> 02:41:46,399
it took me a couple of hours and

3791
02:41:50,389 --> 02:41:49,600
eventually boom i said there it is

3792
02:41:53,269 --> 02:41:50,399
and

3793
02:41:56,309 --> 02:41:53,279
gone

3794
02:41:59,030 --> 02:41:56,319
um okay so this is really fun you said

3795
02:42:00,950 --> 02:41:59,040
it before i'm having a blast with this i

3796
02:42:01,990 --> 02:42:00,960
love this [\h__\h] man right man i'm blown

3797
02:42:06,630 --> 02:42:02,000
away

3798
02:42:10,790 --> 02:42:06,640
was just shown

3799
02:42:13,110 --> 02:42:10,800
um now let's i i i saw the close-ups of

3800
02:42:14,790 --> 02:42:13,120
uh the surface of

3801
02:42:15,830 --> 02:42:14,800
uh the paper

3802
02:42:16,630 --> 02:42:15,840
um

3803
02:42:19,510 --> 02:42:16,640
now

3804
02:42:22,150 --> 02:42:19,520
let's let's are all of the yeah i mean

3805
02:42:23,750 --> 02:42:22,160
that is just crazy town to me

3806
02:42:26,070 --> 02:42:23,760
that's uh

3807
02:42:28,150 --> 02:42:26,080
that's old paper that's old paper yeah

3808
02:42:29,510 --> 02:42:28,160
that's that's that's great okay

3809
02:42:30,469 --> 02:42:29,520
um

3810
02:42:36,230 --> 02:42:30,479
this

3811
02:42:39,990 --> 02:42:36,240
what is the date on the journal you

3812
02:42:43,590 --> 02:42:40,000
mentioned earlier uh late 1800s

3813
02:42:46,710 --> 02:42:43,600
1885 1885. in fact

3814
02:42:49,030 --> 02:42:46,720
jen get that i'll show them the um

3815
02:42:51,830 --> 02:42:49,040
the agnes journal

3816
02:42:54,790 --> 02:42:51,840
what's interesting about this particular

3817
02:42:57,429 --> 02:42:54,800
journal remember it was passed down

3818
02:43:00,150 --> 02:42:57,439
uh this is the great grandson of the

3819
02:43:01,269 --> 02:43:00,160
last guy who wrote in the journals that

3820
02:43:02,230 --> 02:43:01,279
we had

3821
02:43:04,309 --> 02:43:02,240
um

3822
02:43:06,710 --> 02:43:04,319
so this guy you know

3823
02:43:09,190 --> 02:43:06,720
j.a.w jaw

3824
02:43:10,230 --> 02:43:09,200
he no not that one yeah this one

3825
02:43:12,309 --> 02:43:10,240
so

3826
02:43:14,550 --> 02:43:12,319
what happened is this guy was a reverend

3827
02:43:15,590 --> 02:43:14,560
he was a methodist minister

3828
02:43:17,349 --> 02:43:15,600
and

3829
02:43:20,230 --> 02:43:17,359
he had these journals

3830
02:43:21,269 --> 02:43:20,240
the first 13 books there's a total of 20

3831
02:43:24,230 --> 02:43:21,279
books

3832
02:43:27,910 --> 02:43:24,240
the first 13 are written in latin

3833
02:43:30,070 --> 02:43:27,920
the next uh two are written in old

3834
02:43:32,309 --> 02:43:30,080
english i remember this

3835
02:43:34,710 --> 02:43:32,319
right yes yes and then and then the last

3836
02:43:37,429 --> 02:43:34,720
five are in modern english right so what

3837
02:43:41,269 --> 02:43:37,439
this guy did this reverend he reached

3838
02:43:43,910 --> 02:43:41,279
out to a nun a catholic nun

3839
02:43:46,870 --> 02:43:43,920
her name um well i'll leave her name out

3840
02:43:48,550 --> 02:43:46,880
for now but anyway she was

3841
02:43:51,990 --> 02:43:48,560
born in scotland

3842
02:43:54,630 --> 02:43:52,000
she then was taken over and was educated

3843
02:43:56,950 --> 02:43:54,640
and raised in montreal

3844
02:43:59,269 --> 02:43:56,960
and eventually ended up in illinois

3845
02:44:01,830 --> 02:43:59,279
where this jaw lived

3846
02:44:04,710 --> 02:44:01,840
and he was a uh you know he was a member

3847
02:44:06,950 --> 02:44:04,720
of the clergy she was a nun and so what

3848
02:44:09,030 --> 02:44:06,960
he did was he hired her

3849
02:44:10,710 --> 02:44:09,040
to translate these journals that he

3850
02:44:11,750 --> 02:44:10,720
could not read

3851
02:44:14,309 --> 02:44:11,760
and

3852
02:44:15,349 --> 02:44:14,319
they they formed a deal that

3853
02:44:19,990 --> 02:44:15,359
is in

3854
02:44:23,269 --> 02:44:20,000
this journal it's a diary 1880 oh

3855
02:44:26,230 --> 02:44:23,279
got it got it got it got it got it yes i

3856
02:44:29,030 --> 02:44:26,240
do i do i do okay now this

3857
02:44:31,349 --> 02:44:29,040
is not the other thing i showed you that

3858
02:44:33,670 --> 02:44:31,359
that j.a.w book

3859
02:44:36,230 --> 02:44:33,680
that is what she copied

3860
02:44:38,870 --> 02:44:36,240
this is her personal journal

3861
02:44:41,269 --> 02:44:38,880
now what she did was she agreed to copy

3862
02:44:44,230 --> 02:44:41,279
these journals or translate them from

3863
02:44:45,990 --> 02:44:44,240
latin and old english into ma into

3864
02:44:49,750 --> 02:44:46,000
english

3865
02:44:52,070 --> 02:44:49,760
for hay for her horses and wood

3866
02:44:54,469 --> 02:44:52,080
and in this notebook that i just showed

3867
02:44:55,510 --> 02:44:54,479
you she has some very interesting

3868
02:44:57,990 --> 02:44:55,520
entries

3869
02:44:59,670 --> 02:44:58,000
that she's writing down over it took her

3870
02:45:02,389 --> 02:44:59,680
five months to do the work now that

3871
02:45:04,630 --> 02:45:02,399
looked like it was published

3872
02:45:07,510 --> 02:45:04,640
oh wait no that was what it was is that

3873
02:45:08,469 --> 02:45:07,520
was like a diary that you could get in a

3874
02:45:10,710 --> 02:45:08,479
store

3875
02:45:12,389 --> 02:45:10,720
and grab one of the other pages let me

3876
02:45:15,990 --> 02:45:12,399
show you let me see that front page

3877
02:45:17,910 --> 02:45:16,000
again yeah hand me the front page again

3878
02:45:19,110 --> 02:45:17,920
yeah just grab them

3879
02:45:25,030 --> 02:45:19,120
thank you

3880
02:45:28,309 --> 02:45:25,040
all right hold on secretary okay it says

3881
02:45:31,349 --> 02:45:28,319
canadian oh i got it okay canadian

3882
02:45:32,309 --> 02:45:31,359
pocket diary from 1895 cover

3883
02:45:33,910 --> 02:45:32,319
right

3884
02:45:36,150 --> 02:45:33,920
that's closed up

3885
02:45:39,190 --> 02:45:36,160
and this is the first page

3886
02:45:41,190 --> 02:45:39,200
and then these are what the pages look

3887
02:45:44,070 --> 02:45:41,200
like and that's freaking that's freaking

3888
02:45:46,070 --> 02:45:44,080
authentic as the day is long

3889
02:45:48,870 --> 02:45:46,080
well yeah of course it is yeah

3890
02:45:51,750 --> 02:45:48,880
what the hell man i have i have this

3891
02:45:53,190 --> 02:45:51,760
book in my possession right now

3892
02:45:55,750 --> 02:45:53,200
it's yeah go ahead

3893
02:45:57,750 --> 02:45:55,760
oh you have the you have the actual book

3894
02:45:59,830 --> 02:45:57,760
yeah it's down in the vault it's in it's

3895
02:46:02,550 --> 02:45:59,840
take a left it's on it's right above

3896
02:46:04,630 --> 02:46:02,560
chest type it's down in the vault

3897
02:46:05,670 --> 02:46:04,640
i do i have a walk-in vault man you

3898
02:46:07,349 --> 02:46:05,680
better

3899
02:46:09,030 --> 02:46:07,359
where do you think i put these alien

3900
02:46:11,750 --> 02:46:09,040
artifacts i don't just leave them on the

3901
02:46:15,030 --> 02:46:11,760
damn shelf

3902
02:46:18,389 --> 02:46:15,040
that is crazy what you just showed you

3903
02:46:21,429 --> 02:46:18,399
must be losing your mind right now oh

3904
02:46:23,030 --> 02:46:21,439
yes we are and you know it's it's you

3905
02:46:25,269 --> 02:46:23,040
know it's one thing to just get a

3906
02:46:27,990 --> 02:46:25,279
journal that has all this stuff in it

3907
02:46:31,030 --> 02:46:28,000
that in itself is amazing but to have

3908
02:46:34,150 --> 02:46:31,040
another document that gives the document

3909
02:46:36,790 --> 02:46:34,160
that you have context yes now we know

3910
02:46:38,870 --> 02:46:36,800
the story behind how this document came

3911
02:46:41,590 --> 02:46:38,880
to be and

3912
02:46:43,030 --> 02:46:41,600
it's just a great story it's fantastic

3913
02:46:46,710 --> 02:46:43,040
um

3914
02:46:49,590 --> 02:46:46,720
my mind is blown right now there is and

3915
02:46:53,670 --> 02:46:49,600
at the end of that journal wow

3916
02:46:56,389 --> 02:46:53,680
she wrote a letter to the reverend

3917
02:46:58,870 --> 02:46:56,399
and she talks about her you know what

3918
02:47:00,630 --> 02:46:58,880
she did she's going to be transferred to

3919
02:47:02,630 --> 02:47:00,640
philadelphia so

3920
02:47:05,190 --> 02:47:02,640
she's like saying goodbye this is the

3921
02:47:06,950 --> 02:47:05,200
last thing i'll i'll do for you

3922
02:47:09,910 --> 02:47:06,960
i you know i've had a great friendship

3923
02:47:12,950 --> 02:47:09,920
with you and then she talks about her

3924
02:47:15,110 --> 02:47:12,960
feelings about the story now

3925
02:47:16,710 --> 02:47:15,120
stop and think about this she's a

3926
02:47:17,590 --> 02:47:16,720
catholic

3927
02:47:18,630 --> 02:47:17,600
nun

3928
02:47:20,790 --> 02:47:18,640
right

3929
02:47:23,349 --> 02:47:20,800
and she's writing about templars and

3930
02:47:28,230 --> 02:47:23,359
templar treasure right right right and

3931
02:47:32,710 --> 02:47:30,870
she says god has told me the story is

3932
02:47:36,950 --> 02:47:32,720
true

3933
02:47:38,710 --> 02:47:36,960
i i i am blown away ah there it is open

3934
02:47:40,710 --> 02:47:38,720
it up let me see it

3935
02:47:44,230 --> 02:47:40,720
this is the original book so this thing

3936
02:47:46,870 --> 02:47:44,240
is 200 and almost 250 years old oh no

3937
02:47:50,389 --> 02:47:46,880
100 or 150 years old

3938
02:47:53,349 --> 02:47:50,399
there it is oh my god

3939
02:47:55,269 --> 02:47:53,359
oh my god and it's just a little pocket

3940
02:47:57,750 --> 02:47:55,279
yes it's just it's a it's a little

3941
02:47:58,790 --> 02:47:57,760
pocket diary it's this big

3942
02:48:00,870 --> 02:47:58,800
yeah

3943
02:48:03,429 --> 02:48:00,880
all right it's leather it's kind of it's

3944
02:48:04,389 --> 02:48:03,439
it's old it's kind of coming apart a

3945
02:48:06,630 --> 02:48:04,399
little bit

3946
02:48:08,230 --> 02:48:06,640
but um we have to get this back to the

3947
02:48:11,030 --> 02:48:08,240
family at some point dude that is

3948
02:48:13,269 --> 02:48:11,040
priceless so so gracious to share

3949
02:48:14,630 --> 02:48:13,279
everything with us

3950
02:48:15,429 --> 02:48:14,640
oh let's see

3951
02:48:17,990 --> 02:48:15,439
oh

3952
02:48:22,150 --> 02:48:18,000
yeah here's an entry

3953
02:48:26,840 --> 02:48:22,160
i should tell bishop about the journals

3954
02:48:30,309 --> 02:48:28,389
[Music]

3955
02:48:31,349 --> 02:48:30,319
all right no more that's all he gets

3956
02:48:33,670 --> 02:48:31,359
we're done

3957
02:48:36,630 --> 02:48:33,680
it's so funny here's this post from tb

3958
02:48:37,830 --> 02:48:36,640
just came up 15 seconds ago on twitter

3959
02:48:39,670 --> 02:48:37,840
please

3960
02:48:42,389 --> 02:48:39,680
give us a hint

3961
02:48:45,349 --> 02:48:42,399
it's scott walter i'm doing the best

3962
02:48:47,510 --> 02:48:45,359
that i can and i think i've done pretty

3963
02:48:51,670 --> 02:48:47,520
good tonight all right jimmy this is the

3964
02:48:53,269 --> 02:48:51,680
third time okay probably the last time

3965
02:48:55,510 --> 02:48:53,279
if you were me

3966
02:48:56,870 --> 02:48:55,520
what would you do

3967
02:48:58,550 --> 02:48:56,880
uh

3968
02:49:00,550 --> 02:48:58,560
i wouldn't come on this show and talk

3969
02:49:01,750 --> 02:49:00,560
about it

3970
02:49:02,550 --> 02:49:01,760
right

3971
02:49:03,990 --> 02:49:02,560
um

3972
02:49:04,950 --> 02:49:04,000
this is

3973
02:49:06,790 --> 02:49:04,960
this

3974
02:49:08,389 --> 02:49:06,800
yeah if you

3975
02:49:12,150 --> 02:49:08,399
uh

3976
02:49:13,670 --> 02:49:12,160
you know what you do you shut the doors

3977
02:49:14,710 --> 02:49:13,680
you and janet

3978
02:49:21,830 --> 02:49:14,720
uh

3979
02:49:26,469 --> 02:49:21,840
page and take as long as it takes to to

3980
02:49:30,630 --> 02:49:26,479
get through that there are there must be

3981
02:49:33,510 --> 02:49:30,640
hundreds of nuggets that only happen

3982
02:49:36,150 --> 02:49:33,520
by re-reading re-looking at it because

3983
02:49:37,910 --> 02:49:36,160
if you do a cursory pass-through

3984
02:49:39,750 --> 02:49:37,920
right and you think you've got it all

3985
02:49:41,750 --> 02:49:39,760
you don't you've got to go back and look

3986
02:49:44,550 --> 02:49:41,760
at it again look at it again hand it

3987
02:49:47,750 --> 02:49:44,560
over to janet have her put her eyes on

3988
02:49:49,349 --> 02:49:47,760
it and things start to reveal themselves

3989
02:49:50,550 --> 02:49:49,359
um so that's what i would do i would

3990
02:49:53,990 --> 02:49:50,560
shut the door

3991
02:49:55,269 --> 02:49:54,000
i would uh start ordering uber eats

3992
02:49:59,590 --> 02:49:55,279
right

3993
02:50:02,710 --> 02:49:59,600
now uh uh but scott okay in it if we're

3994
02:50:05,990 --> 02:50:02,720
going to look at this in its totality

3995
02:50:09,830 --> 02:50:06,000
what is what do you feel is going on

3996
02:50:12,150 --> 02:50:09,840
here is this you know 15 treasure maps

3997
02:50:15,030 --> 02:50:12,160
is it 15

3998
02:50:18,150 --> 02:50:15,040
maps of of something else uh you know

3999
02:50:20,870 --> 02:50:18,160
what is the significant of each location

4000
02:50:23,750 --> 02:50:20,880
in these maps if you were a betting man

4001
02:50:25,269 --> 02:50:23,760
what do you think we're looking at here

4002
02:50:26,950 --> 02:50:25,279
well they're definitely treasure maps

4003
02:50:28,469 --> 02:50:26,960
there's no question about that because

4004
02:50:29,190 --> 02:50:28,479
the journals tell us that's what they

4005
02:50:32,070 --> 02:50:29,200
are

4006
02:50:33,750 --> 02:50:32,080
uh what i did not realize and and i i

4007
02:50:37,349 --> 02:50:33,760
want to be careful because we're hoping

4008
02:50:38,070 --> 02:50:37,359
to get this on television at some point

4009
02:50:40,469 --> 02:50:38,080
but

4010
02:50:44,950 --> 02:50:43,110
what i can tell you is that the you know

4011
02:50:46,230 --> 02:50:44,960
the legend of earl henry is is

4012
02:50:48,790 --> 02:50:46,240
absolutely true

4013
02:50:50,389 --> 02:50:48,800
the details of what he did is what we're

4014
02:50:53,190 --> 02:50:50,399
trying to understand

4015
02:50:55,030 --> 02:50:53,200
we thought we understood the story

4016
02:50:56,790 --> 02:50:55,040
uh from the first set of journals but

4017
02:50:58,550 --> 02:50:56,800
now it looks like well there's there

4018
02:50:59,750 --> 02:50:58,560
were a lot more treasures that they

4019
02:51:02,309 --> 02:50:59,760
brought over

4020
02:51:04,870 --> 02:51:02,319
uh we know that he came over

4021
02:51:06,790 --> 02:51:04,880
uh three times earl henry came over in

4022
02:51:08,630 --> 02:51:06,800
1354

4023
02:51:10,230 --> 02:51:08,640
and then it was almost

4024
02:51:13,269 --> 02:51:10,240
40 years later

4025
02:51:15,670 --> 02:51:13,279
he came over again in 1395

4026
02:51:20,710 --> 02:51:15,680
and then he came again in 1398 that was

4027
02:51:25,110 --> 02:51:22,870
he went with his father one but he was

4028
02:51:27,190 --> 02:51:25,120
the son he went with his father that's

4029
02:51:30,150 --> 02:51:27,200
right okay i remember and his father

4030
02:51:32,389 --> 02:51:30,160
according to this both of these journals

4031
02:51:34,469 --> 02:51:32,399
because we have both of them

4032
02:51:36,389 --> 02:51:34,479
saying the same thing

4033
02:51:38,309 --> 02:51:36,399
his father came over

4034
02:51:39,269 --> 02:51:38,319
six times

4035
02:51:41,590 --> 02:51:39,279
so

4036
02:51:43,830 --> 02:51:41,600
imagine that i mean

4037
02:51:45,429 --> 02:51:43,840
look you said it earlier jim these guys

4038
02:51:47,510 --> 02:51:45,439
were coming over here

4039
02:51:49,830 --> 02:51:47,520
and it wasn't that big of a deal now the

4040
02:51:51,190 --> 02:51:49,840
truth is it was very dangerous we

4041
02:51:53,349 --> 02:51:51,200
learned in the journals that they

4042
02:51:56,150 --> 02:51:53,359
encountered storms and they lost a

4043
02:51:58,389 --> 02:51:56,160
number of ships uh on the num multiple

4044
02:52:01,030 --> 02:51:58,399
voyages so it wasn't like a walk in the

4045
02:52:03,269 --> 02:52:01,040
park it was serious business it was very

4046
02:52:05,030 --> 02:52:03,279
dangerous you don't screw around on the

4047
02:52:07,670 --> 02:52:05,040
sea you don't screw around on the sea

4048
02:52:10,070 --> 02:52:07,680
today no you don't you do not but but

4049
02:52:11,429 --> 02:52:10,080
that said they were coming over here all

4050
02:52:12,309 --> 02:52:11,439
the time

4051
02:52:15,349 --> 02:52:12,319
and

4052
02:52:17,190 --> 02:52:15,359
because of their ideology that was that

4053
02:52:19,910 --> 02:52:17,200
was not

4054
02:52:22,550 --> 02:52:19,920
catholic the templars the biggest if

4055
02:52:25,830 --> 02:52:22,560
there's one

4056
02:52:27,429 --> 02:52:25,840
big uh misnomer about the templars is

4057
02:52:28,389 --> 02:52:27,439
that they were the good catholics they

4058
02:52:30,710 --> 02:52:28,399
were not

4059
02:52:33,030 --> 02:52:30,720
they actually embraced an ancient faith

4060
02:52:34,630 --> 02:52:33,040
we've talked about this for before

4061
02:52:36,790 --> 02:52:34,640
symbolized by the hook decks

4062
02:52:39,190 --> 02:52:36,800
monotheistic dualism where they

4063
02:52:41,590 --> 02:52:39,200
venerated the sacred feminine or the

4064
02:52:42,630 --> 02:52:41,600
feminine aspect of the godhead

4065
02:52:44,469 --> 02:52:42,640
and

4066
02:52:45,910 --> 02:52:44,479
the reason they got along so well with

4067
02:52:48,389 --> 02:52:45,920
the natives is the natives are

4068
02:52:50,710 --> 02:52:48,399
matriarchal cultures they venerate the

4069
02:52:53,590 --> 02:52:50,720
goddess and the feminine aspect as well

4070
02:52:56,309 --> 02:52:53,600
this is why they were able to bond this

4071
02:52:58,870 --> 02:52:56,319
is why they had free reign to go all

4072
02:53:02,870 --> 02:52:58,880
over this continent because the natives

4073
02:53:03,990 --> 02:53:02,880
let them right essentially for 400 years

4074
02:53:05,110 --> 02:53:04,000
before

4075
02:53:06,150 --> 02:53:05,120
settlement

4076
02:53:08,389 --> 02:53:06,160
so

4077
02:53:10,550 --> 02:53:08,399
that's why we have all this evidence all

4078
02:53:12,790 --> 02:53:10,560
over the damn country the runestones

4079
02:53:14,309 --> 02:53:12,800
halfway across the continent and some

4080
02:53:15,190 --> 02:53:14,319
people say wow they couldn't have got

4081
02:53:18,150 --> 02:53:15,200
there

4082
02:53:20,710 --> 02:53:18,160
and well actually they did and now we

4083
02:53:23,030 --> 02:53:20,720
understand why and how

4084
02:53:25,429 --> 02:53:23,040
and the whole picture is coming together

4085
02:53:27,269 --> 02:53:25,439
and it is the best damn story i've ever

4086
02:53:28,710 --> 02:53:27,279
heard in my life what i don't want to

4087
02:53:30,630 --> 02:53:28,720
get into though

4088
02:53:33,510 --> 02:53:30,640
is

4089
02:53:35,510 --> 02:53:33,520
probably the most fantastic part of the

4090
02:53:38,790 --> 02:53:35,520
story took place

4091
02:53:41,510 --> 02:53:38,800
just before the revolutionary war and it

4092
02:53:44,070 --> 02:53:41,520
will just knock your socks off i can't

4093
02:53:46,550 --> 02:53:44,080
talk about it right now but when i can

4094
02:53:49,190 --> 02:53:46,560
jim you just better be ready brother

4095
02:53:50,710 --> 02:53:49,200
because it'll it i will read you some of

4096
02:53:53,510 --> 02:53:50,720
the passages

4097
02:53:56,070 --> 02:53:53,520
and you will get goosebumps i guarantee

4098
02:53:58,550 --> 02:53:56,080
it you will absolutely freak out i want

4099
02:54:00,389 --> 02:53:58,560
to be the narrator on the tv series i

4100
02:54:02,630 --> 02:54:00,399
want to be the robber we need somebody

4101
02:54:05,590 --> 02:54:02,640
with a with a deep voice somebody that

4102
02:54:07,990 --> 02:54:05,600
knows how to speak can put passion and

4103
02:54:09,750 --> 02:54:08,000
hey i know a guy yeah jimmy church yeah

4104
02:54:11,429 --> 02:54:09,760
i want to be the fifth beatle in this

4105
02:54:14,150 --> 02:54:11,439
one um

4106
02:54:16,469 --> 02:54:14,160
uh scott when we talk about treasure and

4107
02:54:17,429 --> 02:54:16,479
i don't want to run out of time

4108
02:54:20,870 --> 02:54:17,439
um

4109
02:54:24,230 --> 02:54:20,880
of course we think of you know uh pieces

4110
02:54:26,630 --> 02:54:24,240
of eight and gold and and goblets and

4111
02:54:28,710 --> 02:54:26,640
and and jewels and gemstones

4112
02:54:31,030 --> 02:54:28,720
um and certainly that may be part of it

4113
02:54:33,349 --> 02:54:31,040
but when we're talking about treasure

4114
02:54:35,110 --> 02:54:33,359
one one man's treasure is another man's

4115
02:54:36,710 --> 02:54:35,120
you know one man steak is another man's

4116
02:54:39,190 --> 02:54:36,720
hamburger

4117
02:54:40,630 --> 02:54:39,200
so what are we talking about when we say

4118
02:54:43,349 --> 02:54:40,640
treasure and we're going on this

4119
02:54:45,429 --> 02:54:43,359
treasure hunt

4120
02:54:48,790 --> 02:54:45,439
well to me the treasure is the true

4121
02:54:50,150 --> 02:54:48,800
story to me the treasure is

4122
02:54:52,710 --> 02:54:50,160
you know having things like the

4123
02:54:55,269 --> 02:54:52,720
kensington runestone accepted for the

4124
02:54:58,469 --> 02:54:55,279
incredible artifact that it is but when

4125
02:55:01,910 --> 02:54:58,479
we are talking about specifically

4126
02:55:04,389 --> 02:55:01,920
the treasure yeah x marks the spot i saw

4127
02:55:07,590 --> 02:55:04,399
the x on the map are they buried there

4128
02:55:09,590 --> 02:55:07,600
right well the the truth is jim i know

4129
02:55:11,990 --> 02:55:09,600
what they buried there because

4130
02:55:15,349 --> 02:55:12,000
in our journals we have a treasure list

4131
02:55:16,550 --> 02:55:15,359
it tells us exactly what is buried at

4132
02:55:18,469 --> 02:55:16,560
these locations

4133
02:55:20,150 --> 02:55:18,479
now i can't tell you that but here's

4134
02:55:21,910 --> 02:55:20,160
what i can tell you now wait a minute

4135
02:55:24,309 --> 02:55:21,920
wait a minute wait a minute janet get me

4136
02:55:30,550 --> 02:55:24,319
a treasure list

4137
02:55:32,389 --> 02:55:30,560
you janet

4138
02:55:34,870 --> 02:55:32,399
i do

4139
02:55:37,510 --> 02:55:34,880
not not scott don't be using that charm

4140
02:55:39,750 --> 02:55:37,520
on her because it'll work so stop i'm

4141
02:55:41,030 --> 02:55:39,760
telling you right now janet's a keeper

4142
02:55:46,150 --> 02:55:41,040
janet

4143
02:55:48,389 --> 02:55:46,160
ignore him ignore him just ignore him

4144
02:55:50,710 --> 02:55:48,399
that's right fine okay all right okay

4145
02:55:53,190 --> 02:55:50,720
now having said that jim you asked me

4146
02:55:55,429 --> 02:55:53,200
i'm gonna tell you some treasure okay

4147
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but let me just put it in context okay

4148
02:56:01,190 --> 02:55:57,920
we've got three minutes okay won't take

4149
02:56:04,230 --> 02:56:01,200
that long okay all right so

4150
02:56:06,710 --> 02:56:04,240
in my latest book uh shameless plug

4151
02:56:09,510 --> 02:56:06,720
cryptic code of the templars in america

4152
02:56:12,790 --> 02:56:09,520
we talk about the cremona document

4153
02:56:15,190 --> 02:56:12,800
and we have documents that tell us about

4154
02:56:16,070 --> 02:56:15,200
the six nights that went under the south

4155
02:56:19,510 --> 02:56:16,080
wall

4156
02:56:21,830 --> 02:56:19,520
and the treasures that they recovered

4157
02:56:24,630 --> 02:56:21,840
they were inside ossuaries which are

4158
02:56:25,429 --> 02:56:24,640
bone boxes right from the first century

4159
02:56:27,429 --> 02:56:25,439
uh

4160
02:56:28,469 --> 02:56:27,439
people that had a very unique burial

4161
02:56:31,429 --> 02:56:28,479
practice

4162
02:56:33,429 --> 02:56:31,439
inside these four boxes

4163
02:56:34,790 --> 02:56:33,439
i can tell you this

4164
02:56:37,830 --> 02:56:34,800
they found

4165
02:56:38,830 --> 02:56:37,840
gold in one of them

4166
02:56:41,510 --> 02:56:38,840
they

4167
02:56:42,870 --> 02:56:41,520
found scrolls

4168
02:56:45,110 --> 02:56:42,880
documents

4169
02:56:46,870 --> 02:56:45,120
in another one

4170
02:56:49,269 --> 02:56:46,880
they found

4171
02:56:51,990 --> 02:56:49,279
instrumentation instruments

4172
02:56:53,349 --> 02:56:52,000
navigation devices devices using for

4173
02:56:56,950 --> 02:56:53,359
construction

4174
02:56:58,710 --> 02:56:56,960
and a cryptex for various coded

4175
02:57:00,389 --> 02:56:58,720
documents for deciphering coded

4176
02:57:02,389 --> 02:57:00,399
documents right

4177
02:57:04,870 --> 02:57:02,399
and in the fourth box

4178
02:57:06,630 --> 02:57:04,880
they found the remains

4179
02:57:10,550 --> 02:57:06,640
of a human

4180
02:57:13,110 --> 02:57:10,560
a person whose head had been severed

4181
02:57:15,269 --> 02:57:13,120
with a large heavy axe

4182
02:57:18,790 --> 02:57:15,279
on the side of the box

4183
02:57:23,349 --> 02:57:18,800
was a name the name carved was

4184
02:57:25,349 --> 02:57:23,359
yawn there was no j back then

4185
02:57:26,150 --> 02:57:25,359
john the baptist probably

4186
02:57:29,269 --> 02:57:26,160
and

4187
02:57:32,230 --> 02:57:29,279
in the document it says bernard begs the

4188
02:57:33,590 --> 02:57:32,240
bones he took these bones

4189
02:57:35,030 --> 02:57:33,600
now here's something that's very

4190
02:57:37,110 --> 02:57:35,040
interesting i'm going to tell you about

4191
02:57:44,230 --> 02:57:37,120
freemasonry

4192
02:57:46,790 --> 02:57:44,240
are dedicated to the holy saints john

4193
02:57:49,670 --> 02:57:46,800
john the evangelist and john the baptist

4194
02:57:52,950 --> 02:57:49,680
but prior to 1600

4195
02:57:55,590 --> 02:57:52,960
our lodges were only dedicated to john

4196
02:57:58,630 --> 02:57:55,600
the baptist now

4197
02:58:00,710 --> 02:57:58,640
you can put that together yourself

4198
02:58:03,750 --> 02:58:00,720
what that suggests

4199
02:58:06,469 --> 02:58:03,760
is that freemasonry

4200
02:58:07,990 --> 02:58:06,479
directly from knights templarism because

4201
02:58:10,230 --> 02:58:08,000
where would we have gotten this

4202
02:58:12,630 --> 02:58:10,240
dedication to the holy saint john and

4203
02:58:14,790 --> 02:58:12,640
here's one more fun fact for you

4204
02:58:15,670 --> 02:58:14,800
one of the charges

4205
02:58:17,990 --> 02:58:15,680
that the

4206
02:58:19,429 --> 02:58:18,000
the catholic church made against the

4207
02:58:21,750 --> 02:58:19,439
templars

4208
02:58:23,830 --> 02:58:21,760
was that they worshipped the head of an

4209
02:58:25,429 --> 02:58:23,840
idol that's right

4210
02:58:26,290 --> 02:58:25,439
and the truth is

4211
02:58:29,349 --> 02:58:26,300
they did

4212
02:58:31,190 --> 02:58:29,359
[Laughter]

4213
02:58:32,469 --> 02:58:31,200
how was that is that three minutes or

4214
02:58:35,269 --> 02:58:32,479
less ah

4215
02:58:38,870 --> 02:58:35,279
okay so

4216
02:58:41,990 --> 02:58:38,880
it each one of those i didn't see x's on

4217
02:58:43,830 --> 02:58:42,000
all of them but i did see them on some

4218
02:58:47,590 --> 02:58:43,840
they're on all of them they're on all of

4219
02:58:51,030 --> 02:58:47,600
them and are we to deduce that x marks

4220
02:58:51,830 --> 02:58:51,040
the spot and i you know i mean obviously

4221
02:58:53,990 --> 02:58:51,840
uh

4222
02:58:55,830 --> 02:58:54,000
it's something that makes a lot of sense

4223
02:58:57,510 --> 02:58:55,840
but is that what we are talking about

4224
02:59:00,950 --> 02:58:57,520
here

4225
02:59:04,309 --> 02:59:00,960
hell yes

4226
02:59:05,269 --> 02:59:04,319
can i go to one of the islands with you

4227
02:59:08,070 --> 02:59:05,279
uh

4228
02:59:10,550 --> 02:59:08,080
you know what jim i i i think we might

4229
02:59:12,150 --> 02:59:10,560
be able to make that happen now if if

4230
02:59:14,150 --> 02:59:12,160
everything goes the way we hope it's

4231
02:59:16,790 --> 02:59:14,160
gonna go and you know what i'm talking

4232
02:59:18,150 --> 02:59:16,800
about i do i i think we can make that

4233
02:59:20,469 --> 02:59:18,160
happen i would love it because you've

4234
02:59:22,309 --> 02:59:20,479
you've been such a great supporter if

4235
02:59:24,870 --> 02:59:22,319
all this happens

4236
02:59:28,550 --> 02:59:24,880
um we need some strong backs and weak

4237
02:59:30,469 --> 02:59:28,560
minds are you with me i'm i i am both

4238
02:59:32,790 --> 02:59:30,479
me too all right

4239
02:59:36,230 --> 02:59:32,800
scott thank you so much and and please

4240
02:59:37,830 --> 02:59:36,240
give my best to janet um i know that

4241
02:59:39,190 --> 02:59:37,840
uh we've got some things that we're

4242
02:59:42,710 --> 02:59:39,200
working on

4243
02:59:45,110 --> 02:59:42,720
and uh and we'll announce things as we

4244
02:59:47,670 --> 02:59:45,120
move along in the months ahead but uh

4245
02:59:49,510 --> 02:59:47,680
you'll be back with this very soon uh

4246
02:59:51,750 --> 02:59:49,520
with some more exciting things to talk

4247
02:59:54,790 --> 02:59:51,760
about i promise everybody it won't be as

4248
02:59:56,710 --> 02:59:54,800
cryptic uh next time around scott thank

4249
02:59:57,940 --> 02:59:56,720
you so much my friend

4250
02:59:59,190 --> 02:59:57,950
happy reading

4251
03:00:01,510 --> 02:59:59,200
[Laughter]

4252
03:00:03,750 --> 03:00:01,520
jimmy thank you so much man i've had so

4253
03:00:05,750 --> 03:00:03,760
much fun tonight and thank you for

4254
03:00:07,830 --> 03:00:05,760
rolling with the flow i dropped that on

4255
03:00:08,790 --> 03:00:07,840
you you did not know that was coming no

4256
03:00:10,630 --> 03:00:08,800
i did not

4257
03:00:14,870 --> 03:00:10,640
and you handle it like a champ just like

4258
03:00:16,710 --> 03:00:14,880
you always do that was my eyes man

4259
03:00:18,870 --> 03:00:16,720
thank you so much scott give my best to

4260
03:00:21,030 --> 03:00:18,880
janet man have a great night and we'll

4261
03:00:22,630 --> 03:00:21,040
be talking this week thank you so much

4262
03:00:25,670 --> 03:00:22,640
all right talk to you later brother

4263
03:00:27,630 --> 03:00:25,680
scott walter again uh scott's websites

4264
03:00:28,630 --> 03:00:27,640
are over at jimmychurchradio.com

4265
03:00:31,000 --> 03:00:28,640
hookedx.com

4266
03:00:32,710 --> 03:00:31,010
scottwalteranswers.blogspot.com

4267
03:00:34,630 --> 03:00:32,720
[Music]

4268
03:00:35,670 --> 03:00:34,640
what a great night tonight thank you so

4269
03:00:37,590 --> 03:00:35,680
much scott

4270
03:00:39,910 --> 03:00:37,600
uh that was an amazing show that's my

4271
03:00:41,750 --> 03:00:39,920
kind of show right there

4272
03:00:43,510 --> 03:00:41,760
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03:00:54,630 --> 03:00:52,560
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03:01:01,190 --> 03:00:58,720
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4280
03:01:02,710 --> 03:01:01,200
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03:01:07,750 --> 03:01:06,080
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03:01:09,670 --> 03:01:07,760
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03:01:11,030 --> 03:01:09,680
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03:01:18,230 --> 03:01:16,319
tomorrow night anjali right here on fade

4289
03:01:20,870 --> 03:01:18,240
to black for the first time get ready

4290
03:01:22,230 --> 03:01:20,880
for that until then i want everybody to

4291
03:01:27,240 --> 03:01:22,240
be safe

4292
03:01:27,240 --> 03:01:27,250
it's time to fade to black

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so